Re: [zones-discuss] [zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones

2007-12-21 Thread Richard Elling
Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland) wrote:
> Mangan wrote:
>> The 9/07 release appears to be for X86 only. The 8/07 release appears 
>> to be for Sparc or X86. The 9/07 release is also titled " Express 
>> Developers Edition 9/07".
>>
>> Apparently not a release I can use.
>>
>> Thanks for the quick feedback.
> ok my mistake, getting confused by release numbers, 9.07 was what 
> Richard meant.

No, my mistake... when you get old, you begin to lose track of dates...
Solaris 10 would be 8/07 (aka update 4).  Solaris Express is probably not
what you want for a production system.  Now, when was my anniversary
again? :-)
 -- richard

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Re: [zones-discuss] [zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones

2007-12-21 Thread Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland)
Mangan wrote:
> The 9/07 release appears to be for X86 only. The 8/07 release appears to be 
> for Sparc or X86. The 9/07 release is also titled " Express Developers 
> Edition 9/07".
> 
> Apparently not a release I can use.
> 
> Thanks for the quick feedback.
ok my mistake, getting confused by release numbers, 9.07 was what 
Richard meant.

Enda

> When is the next release for Sparc due out?
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: "Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Dec 21, 2007 9:15 AM
>> To: Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], zones-discuss@opensolaris.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [zones-discuss] [zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones
>>
>> Richard Elling wrote:
>>> Morris Hooten wrote:
>>>> I looked through the solarsinternals zfs best practices and not
>>>> completly sure
>>>> of the best scenario.
>>>>   
>>> ok, perhaps we should add some clarifications...
>>>
>>>> I have a Solaris 10 6/06 Generic_125100-10 box with attached 3510 array
>>>> and would like to use zfs on it. Should I create multiple logical disks
>>>> thru the raid
>>>> controller then create zfs raid file systems across the LD's?
>>>>
>>>>   
>>> That method will work ok.  Many people do this with various RAID
>>> arrays.  We can't answer the question "is it the best way?" because we
>>> would need more detailed information on what you are trying to
>>> accomplish and how you want to make design trade-offs.  So for now,
>>> I would say it works just like you would expect.
>>>
>>>> Can I also migrate zones that are on a ufs file system now into a newly
>>>> created zfs file system
>>>> although knowing the limitations with zones and zfs in 06/06?
>>>>   
>>> Zone limitations with ZFS should be well documented in the admin
>>> guides.  Currently, the install and patch process is not ZFS aware, which
>>> might cause you some difficulty with upgrading or patching.  There are
>>> alternative methods to solve this problem, but you should be aware of the
>>> current limitation.
>> the patch to fix the patch of zones on zfs is pending.
>> 119254/119255 revision 49, we hope to release this in the coming days ( 
>> maybe by COB today even )
>>>> Recommendations?
>>>>   
>>> Use Solaris 10 9/07.  It has more than a year's worth of improvements
>>> and enhancements to Solaris.
>> I think you mean 8/07, ( update 4 ) release?
>> But yes this release is most advised,
>> Enda
>>>  -- richard
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Re: [zones-discuss] [zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones

2007-12-21 Thread Mangan
The 9/07 release appears to be for X86 only. The 8/07 release appears to be for 
Sparc or X86. The 9/07 release is also titled " Express Developers Edition 
9/07".

Apparently not a release I can use.

Thanks for the quick feedback.

When is the next release for Sparc due out?

Paul


-Original Message-
>From: "Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Dec 21, 2007 9:15 AM
>To: Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], zones-discuss@opensolaris.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [zones-discuss] [zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones
>
>Richard Elling wrote:
>> Morris Hooten wrote:
>>> I looked through the solarsinternals zfs best practices and not
>>> completly sure
>>> of the best scenario.
>>>   
>> 
>> ok, perhaps we should add some clarifications...
>> 
>>> I have a Solaris 10 6/06 Generic_125100-10 box with attached 3510 array
>>> and would like to use zfs on it. Should I create multiple logical disks
>>> thru the raid
>>> controller then create zfs raid file systems across the LD's?
>>>
>>>   
>> 
>> That method will work ok.  Many people do this with various RAID
>> arrays.  We can't answer the question "is it the best way?" because we
>> would need more detailed information on what you are trying to
>> accomplish and how you want to make design trade-offs.  So for now,
>> I would say it works just like you would expect.
>> 
>>> Can I also migrate zones that are on a ufs file system now into a newly
>>> created zfs file system
>>> although knowing the limitations with zones and zfs in 06/06?
>>>   
>> 
>> Zone limitations with ZFS should be well documented in the admin
>> guides.  Currently, the install and patch process is not ZFS aware, which
>> might cause you some difficulty with upgrading or patching.  There are
>> alternative methods to solve this problem, but you should be aware of the
>> current limitation.
>
>the patch to fix the patch of zones on zfs is pending.
>119254/119255 revision 49, we hope to release this in the coming days ( 
>maybe by COB today even )
>> 
>>> Recommendations?
>>>   
>> 
>> Use Solaris 10 9/07.  It has more than a year's worth of improvements
>> and enhancements to Solaris.
>I think you mean 8/07, ( update 4 ) release?
>But yes this release is most advised,
>Enda
>>  -- richard
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Re: [zones-discuss] [zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones

2007-12-21 Thread Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland)
Mangan wrote:
> Is this a release that can be downloaded from the website and will work on 
> SPARC systems. The write up says it is for VMware. Am I missing something?
> 
> 
>> Use Solaris 10 9/07.  It has more than a year's worth of improvements
>> and enhancements to Solaris.
>> -- richard
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Hi
Haven't been following this thread so I might be off topic ..

I think this should be 8/07 ( Solaris 10 update 4 )
If so then it's on the download site ( or should be ) and works for 
SPARC/x86 ( same as any Solaris 10 release )

What writeup are you looking at?


Enda
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Re: [zones-discuss] [zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones

2007-12-21 Thread Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland)
Richard Elling wrote:
> Morris Hooten wrote:
>> I looked through the solarsinternals zfs best practices and not
>> completly sure
>> of the best scenario.
>>   
> 
> ok, perhaps we should add some clarifications...
> 
>> I have a Solaris 10 6/06 Generic_125100-10 box with attached 3510 array
>> and would like to use zfs on it. Should I create multiple logical disks
>> thru the raid
>> controller then create zfs raid file systems across the LD's?
>>
>>   
> 
> That method will work ok.  Many people do this with various RAID
> arrays.  We can't answer the question "is it the best way?" because we
> would need more detailed information on what you are trying to
> accomplish and how you want to make design trade-offs.  So for now,
> I would say it works just like you would expect.
> 
>> Can I also migrate zones that are on a ufs file system now into a newly
>> created zfs file system
>> although knowing the limitations with zones and zfs in 06/06?
>>   
> 
> Zone limitations with ZFS should be well documented in the admin
> guides.  Currently, the install and patch process is not ZFS aware, which
> might cause you some difficulty with upgrading or patching.  There are
> alternative methods to solve this problem, but you should be aware of the
> current limitation.

the patch to fix the patch of zones on zfs is pending.
119254/119255 revision 49, we hope to release this in the coming days ( 
maybe by COB today even )
> 
>> Recommendations?
>>   
> 
> Use Solaris 10 9/07.  It has more than a year's worth of improvements
> and enhancements to Solaris.
I think you mean 8/07, ( update 4 ) release?
But yes this release is most advised,
Enda
>  -- richard
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Re: [zones-discuss] [zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones

2007-12-21 Thread Mangan
Is this a release that can be downloaded from the website and will work on 
SPARC systems. The write up says it is for VMware. Am I missing something?


>Use Solaris 10 9/07.  It has more than a year's worth of improvements
>and enhancements to Solaris.
> -- richard

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Re: [zones-discuss] [zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones

2007-12-20 Thread Morris Hooten
Thanks Richard.




Richard Elling wrote:
> Morris Hooten wrote:
>> I looked through the solarsinternals zfs best practices and not
>> completly sure
>> of the best scenario.
>>   
>
> ok, perhaps we should add some clarifications...
>
>> I have a Solaris 10 6/06 Generic_125100-10 box with attached 3510 array
>> and would like to use zfs on it. Should I create multiple logical disks
>> thru the raid
>> controller then create zfs raid file systems across the LD's?
>>
>>   
>
> That method will work ok.  Many people do this with various RAID
> arrays.  We can't answer the question "is it the best way?" because we
> would need more detailed information on what you are trying to
> accomplish and how you want to make design trade-offs.  So for now,
> I would say it works just like you would expect.
>
>> Can I also migrate zones that are on a ufs file system now into a newly
>> created zfs file system
>> although knowing the limitations with zones and zfs in 06/06?
>>   
>
> Zone limitations with ZFS should be well documented in the admin
> guides.  Currently, the install and patch process is not ZFS aware, which
> might cause you some difficulty with upgrading or patching.  There are
> alternative methods to solve this problem, but you should be aware of the
> current limitation.
>
>> Recommendations?
>>   
>
> Use Solaris 10 9/07.  It has more than a year's worth of improvements
> and enhancements to Solaris.
> -- richard
>

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Re: [zones-discuss] [zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones

2007-12-20 Thread Richard Elling
Morris Hooten wrote:
> I looked through the solarsinternals zfs best practices and not
> completly sure
> of the best scenario.
>   

ok, perhaps we should add some clarifications...

> I have a Solaris 10 6/06 Generic_125100-10 box with attached 3510 array
> and would like to use zfs on it. Should I create multiple logical disks
> thru the raid
> controller then create zfs raid file systems across the LD's?
>
>   

That method will work ok.  Many people do this with various RAID
arrays.  We can't answer the question "is it the best way?" because we
would need more detailed information on what you are trying to
accomplish and how you want to make design trade-offs.  So for now,
I would say it works just like you would expect.

> Can I also migrate zones that are on a ufs file system now into a newly
> created zfs file system
> although knowing the limitations with zones and zfs in 06/06?
>   

Zone limitations with ZFS should be well documented in the admin
guides.  Currently, the install and patch process is not ZFS aware, which
might cause you some difficulty with upgrading or patching.  There are
alternative methods to solve this problem, but you should be aware of the
current limitation.

> Recommendations?
>   

Use Solaris 10 9/07.  It has more than a year's worth of improvements
and enhancements to Solaris.
 -- richard

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