Re: [zones-discuss] Creating a Virtualization Community Group

2007-08-07 Thread James Carlson
Ellard Roush writes:
 There is so much discussion in these areas that it would be most
 undesirable to combine these 3 different areas.

An excess of discussion sounds like stuff that belongs on a narrower
project or subgroup mailing list, not a reason to avoid a community
group focusing on virtualization.

It's the difference between choosing 'opensolaris-discuss' versus
'myproject-dev' when figuring out where to send a message.

 Recommend that they be kept distinct.
 
 However, I do agree that there are topics that would appeal to
 all 3 areas. In such cases recommend that people send their
 comments to the 3 discussion aliases in a single email.

Note that communities get to steer their technologies independently.
Is it good for Solaris if these three groups end up with conflicting
choices for common components, such as software install and
management?

If that's not good, then I'd suggest that a single virtualization
group would be a good way to start.

In fact, other than a possibly excessive list of community group
leaders and core contributors, I find it a little hard to understand
why separate CGs would be helpful here.

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Re: [zones-discuss] Creating a Virtualization Community Group

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Gerdts
On 8/7/07, Ellard Roush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 There is so much discussion in these areas that it would be most
 undesirable to combine these 3 different areas.

Combining communities does not mean that they all share the same
mailing lists.  zones-discuss, xen-discuss, et. al. would continue to
exist as they do now.

I think that what this would mean is...

Brandz, Xen, and Zones would be three new projects in the
Virtualization[1] community.

The following web areas would move into project pages to make way for
the new Virtualization Community page.   This page may be useful as a
place for newbies to figure out which of the various strategies are
useful in different circumstances.

http://opensolaris.org/os/community/brandz/
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/xen/
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/

A new Logical Domains project would likely start in this community.

There would likely be a virtualization-discuss[2] list as a catch all
for those discussions that don't fit neatly into one of the project
lists above.

The contributors and core contributors of existing communities would
be recognized as the same in the new community.  I would only see this
as substantial if there was ill-will between the various groups
because core contributors could have -1 wars.  I really, really, don't
foresee that happening.

I personally have nothing against the idea.  Aside from giving a
one-stop place to compare virtualization strategies (which could
easily exist in another place) I'm not sure I see a whole lot of
benefit.  For now my vote is a +0.25.  I don't think the constitution
allows that, so I figure out if it is a 0 or +1 after a bit more
discussion takes place.

1.  I would prefer Server Virtualization - there's lots of other
virtualization in Solaris that is not part of this community.
2. Or v12n-discuss to not chew up the entire subject line.


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