Re: [zones-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] Zone Manager v1.8 Released...

2007-01-23 Thread Brad Diggs
I am really glad that you both bring this issue up.  I frankly
would rather that there be no license at all.  After all there is
nothing new under the Sun in the Zone Manager.  Its just a script that
I hope helps make zones management much easier.  However I can't open
source the Zone Manager through the Open Source process without
specifying a license. The Zone Manager was Open Sourced with GPLv2 
even though version 1.7 had CDDL.  I am open to either way but
if I switch from GPLv2 to CDDL I will have to start the OS process
all over again which I really don't want to do.

Brad

On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 16:02 +, Darren J Moffat wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> To mitigate barriers to adoption.
> > 
> > 
> > Which barriers to adoption?
> > 
> > You've also erected a new barrier to adoption (for those who prefer
> > CDDL over GPLv2 and find GPLv2 too restrictive)
> 
> I also completely fail to understand how a GPLv2 zone manager tool built 
> on top of the CDDL licensed (for the source) zone tools in Solaris 
> actually helps.
> 
> What I do see is that there is now a new barrier. There is now this tool 
> under the GPLv2 and the original zones tools under a difference license 
> than the tools it uses to do its job.  I don't see how this actually 
> helps anyone.
> 
> I also think that a change of license of anything hosted on 
> opensolaris.org should be discussed on an appropriate opensolaris.org 
> alias BEFORE a change like this is announced as having happened.
> 
> Given that the zonemgr project has zones-discuss@opensolaris.org as its 
> discussion alias I would have expected to see at least discussion there. 
>   I've check the mail archives and see no mention of a licensing 
> discussion involving the GPL and zonemgr.  As a common courtesy never 
> mind the possible legal implications of this.
> 

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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] Zone Manager v1.8 Released...

2007-01-23 Thread Darren J Moffat

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

To mitigate barriers to adoption.



Which barriers to adoption?

You've also erected a new barrier to adoption (for those who prefer
CDDL over GPLv2 and find GPLv2 too restrictive)


I also completely fail to understand how a GPLv2 zone manager tool built 
on top of the CDDL licensed (for the source) zone tools in Solaris 
actually helps.


What I do see is that there is now a new barrier. There is now this tool 
under the GPLv2 and the original zones tools under a difference license 
than the tools it uses to do its job.  I don't see how this actually 
helps anyone.


I also think that a change of license of anything hosted on 
opensolaris.org should be discussed on an appropriate opensolaris.org 
alias BEFORE a change like this is announced as having happened.


Given that the zonemgr project has zones-discuss@opensolaris.org as its 
discussion alias I would have expected to see at least discussion there. 
 I've check the mail archives and see no mention of a licensing 
discussion involving the GPL and zonemgr.  As a common courtesy never 
mind the possible legal implications of this.


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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] Zone Manager v1.8 Released...

2007-01-23 Thread Casper . Dik

>To mitigate barriers to adoption.


Which barriers to adoption?

You've also erected a new barrier to adoption (for those who prefer
CDDL over GPLv2 and find GPLv2 too restrictive)

Casper

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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] Zone Manager v1.8 Released...

2007-01-23 Thread Casper . Dik

>On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 12:53 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >Brad Diggs wrote:
>> >>  * Switched from CDDL license to GPLv2.
>> >
>> >I'm curious why did the license switch to GPLv2 ?
>> 
>> And noone has contributed any code to this point?
>> 
>> 
>Mostly sun contributors but have also had outside contribution as well.


Did they reassign copyright?  If they did not than you cannot modify the 
license, AFAIK.

Casper

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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] Zone Manager v1.8 Released...

2007-01-23 Thread Brad Diggs
Mostly sun contributors but have also had outside contribution as well.

Brad

On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 12:53 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Brad Diggs wrote:
> >>  * Switched from CDDL license to GPLv2.
> >
> >I'm curious why did the license switch to GPLv2 ?
> 
> And noone has contributed any code to this point?
> 
> 
> 
> Casper
> 

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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] Zone Manager v1.8 Released...

2007-01-23 Thread Brad Diggs
To mitigate barriers to adoption.

Brad

On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 11:48 +, Darren J Moffat wrote:
> Brad Diggs wrote:
> >  * Switched from CDDL license to GPLv2.
> 
> I'm curious why did the license switch to GPLv2 ?
> 
> 

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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] Zone Manager v1.8 Released...

2007-01-23 Thread Casper . Dik

>Brad Diggs wrote:
>>  * Switched from CDDL license to GPLv2.
>
>I'm curious why did the license switch to GPLv2 ?

And noone has contributed any code to this point?



Casper

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