Re: [zones-discuss] VCS failover of non-global zones between systems.

2007-09-12 Thread Sam Yangsao
So basically today it sounds like we'll still need to build 2 seperate zones on 
each physical server for failover purposes.  Especially in patching situations 
where I see this is the only workaround, unless someone has devised a way to 
only have one zone built and failed over via a SAN volume on each physical node 
and patching would not be an issue.

I can't seem to find anything in the VCS 5.0 documentation that includes the 
attach/detach commands only some discussions that say this may be included some 
time in the near future.  I'm assuming this is the same with SUN cluster 3.
 
 
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Re: [zones-discuss] VCS failover of non-global zones between systems.

2006-05-12 Thread Jason Schroeder

Peter Wilk wrote:


This
implies that both (all) systems in the cluster MUST be at identical
patch levels.
 


Yes, you want this.


  Does Sun support the migration of zones from one machine to another
via this technique?  Is there an official position?
 

A note that Sun Cluster 3.1 08/05 offers what appears to be similar to 
what you describe - so seems to be a common way to go with current 
capabilities...


http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-2664/6n4uhp5gm?q=zone+patcha=view

/jason


Thanks

Peter


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Re: [zones-discuss] VCS failover of non-global zones between systems.

2006-05-12 Thread Detlef Ulherr - Sun Client Solutions Germany - Frankfurt
Hi,

This procedure was changed in the release notes.

Modifying /etc/zones/index or the zonname.xml is unsupported. 

Keep in mind, that the comments in these files tell you to keep your hand off.

Kind regards

Detlef Ulherr
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 10:23:42AM -0400, Jason Schroeder wrote:
 Peter Wilk wrote:
 
 This
 implies that both (all) systems in the cluster MUST be at identical
 patch levels.
  
 
 Yes, you want this.
 
   Does Sun support the migration of zones from one machine to another
 via this technique?  Is there an official position?
  
 
 A note that Sun Cluster 3.1 08/05 offers what appears to be similar to 
 what you describe - so seems to be a common way to go with current 
 capabilities...
 
 http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-2664/6n4uhp5gm?q=zone+patcha=view
 
 /jason
 
 Thanks
 
 Peter
 
 
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Re: [zones-discuss] VCS failover of non-global zones between systems.

2006-05-11 Thread Ihsan Zaghmouth




Peter,

Personal experience  For now and until zone migration options
(detach/attach) are available, we have created primary/standby zones
(same names and configurations on all failover nodes)
with one condition where zones are in the following states:
primary=RUNNING and all standby=INSTALLED. 
VCS will use its ZONE agent to online/offline/clean/monitor zone's
status and its application entry-points done with "hawizard" veritas
VCS 4.1 tool.

Once the zone migration options (detach/attach) are available
to the public, same all same OS rules of engagement on cluster nodes
(Patches, Packages, ..etc) 
would have to be stressed out and Zones would be created on their own
Shared Storage (1 Volume/1 DiskGroup) for the zone content itself to
migrate, 
so we could experience steps like:

  Shutdown Application within Zone
  umount all application NFS shared volumes related to zone's
application (NAS case)
  Halt the Zone to INSTALLED state
  Detach The Zone (zoneadm -z zonename detach)
  umount all application volumes related to zone's application (SAN
case)
  
  Deport All DiskGroups for both Applications and Zone.
  Reverse the steps on the failed-over node and Attach the Zone
(zoneadm -z zonename attach), boot the zone and start the
application.
  

At least that is what we have done so far and yet to experiment with
zone migration options (detach/attach) shortly.

Hope this helps 

cheers
Ihsan

Peter Wilk wrote:

  IHAC that is asking the following question


from customer


I have a question regarding the VCS failover of
non-global zones between systems.

   Veritas supports a "zone" agent that is used to failover zones
between systems under cluster control.  There are several documented (by
veritas) restrictions on this:  (1) You must create a zone.xml file that
is unique to cluster member, as well as update the index.xml file for
the zone.  (2) The zone root must be on shared SAN disk (managed by
VxVM) so that it can be visible to both machines.

   My question is regarding Sun support of this technique.  Due to the
restrictions of non-global zones for patching and package-adding, when
you patch (or add a package to) a system when the failover zone is
present, it'll get  patched.  If it isn't present, it won't.  This
implies that both (all) systems in the cluster MUST be at identical
patch levels.

   Does Sun support the migration of zones from one machine to another
via this technique?  Is there an official position?

Thanks

Peter


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