Re: [zones-discuss] Zone management

2008-07-24 Thread Ellard Roush
Hi Nathan, The Sun Cluster organization is introducing a new "cluster" Brand zone, that is based upon the "native" Brand zone plus hooks for Sun Cluster. It would be nice if the design were flexible enough so that we could leverage your proposed tools for a Brand zone other than "native", or at le

Re: [zones-discuss] Zone management

2008-07-23 Thread Tim Spriggs
I have built a little code that allows a user to request a zone from a pre-configured pool of zones. When the user requests a zone the zone is cloned from a base zone. The user is then free to enter the zone and is root once inside the zone. From there the user can reboot/manage smf/etc. I orig

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-14 Thread Brian Kolaci
Dan Price wrote: On Fri 13 Oct 2006 at 02:04PM, Brian Kolaci wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose that zlogin be split into two different programs, one for console access and one for running programs and/or shell. A simple way to do this (and would be backward compatible) would be to cre

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Dan Price
On Fri 13 Oct 2006 at 02:04PM, Brian Kolaci wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>I propose that zlogin be split into two different programs, one > >>for console access and one for running programs and/or shell. > >>A simple way to do this (and would be backward compatible) would be to > >>create a

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Brian Kolaci
I think the customer would be very interested in this tool, however one of the gripes is that things of this nature aren't built in and that they have to construct 'add-ons' to build a base SOE system. Glenn Brunette wrote: Brian, It was basically for this reason that I wrote up a small tool c

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Brian Kolaci
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose that zlogin be split into two different programs, one for console access and one for running programs and/or shell. A simple way to do this (and would be backward compatible) would be to create a hard link to zlogin, say 'zconsole' that when it is executed the p

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Paul Kraus
On 10/13/06, Michael Barto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This probably sacrilege, but some of these zone security issues might be better served with Secure Solaris, if the security requirements are this extreme (e.g . DOD). Adding complex security always add complex overhead. On the other hand l

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Glenn Brunette
Brian, It was basically for this reason that I wrote up a small tool called rzlogin a while back. This particular tool was focused solely on restricting access to zone console logins, but it did leverage some of the ideas called out by David Comay in 4963290 - namely using Solaris authorization

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread David . Comay
I propose that zlogin be split into two different programs, one for console access and one for running programs and/or shell. A simple way to do this (and would be backward compatible) would be to create a hard link to zlogin, say 'zconsole' that when it is executed the program can test arg0 and a

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Brian Kolaci
Its more of a separation of duties. The zone management admin is not necessarily the same person as the application admin in a local zone (however it could be the same person, then this particular item would be moot). The management is bad, but thats just the way it is and always was. Audit req

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Brian Kolaci
Jeff Victor wrote: Brian Kolaci wrote: Jeff Victor wrote: Brian Kolaci wrote: IHAC that is looking to split out zone management roles. The zone administrator creates and manages the local zones however that person should not be able to see the data in the zone for security purposes. They

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Michael Barto
This  probably sacrilege, but some of these zone security issues might be better served with Secure Solaris,  if the security requirements are this extreme (e.g . DOD). Adding complex security always add complex overhead. On the other hand locking out the global zone to all purposes and adminis

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Jeff Victor
Brian Kolaci wrote: Jeff Victor wrote: Brian Kolaci wrote: IHAC that is looking to split out zone management roles. The zone administrator creates and manages the local zones however that person should not be able to see the data in the zone for security purposes. They should only be able t

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Brian Kolaci
Jeff Victor wrote: Brian Kolaci wrote: IHAC that is looking to split out zone management roles. The zone administrator creates and manages the local zones however that person should not be able to see the data in the zone for security purposes. They should only be able to manipulate the res

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Jeff Victor
Brian Kolaci wrote: IHAC that is looking to split out zone management roles. The zone administrator creates and manages the local zones however that person should not be able to see the data in the zone for security purposes. They should only be able to manipulate the resources assigned to th