[Zope-dev] Zope view as object file system instead of web content management

2000-05-28 Thread Sin Hang Kin
Hello DC: It have been pointed out that zope is an object file system instead of an web content management system. But the current activities of zope usage have been mainly apply it as an web app server. This point of view may not release fully the potentials of zope. We have currently seen

[Zope-dev] Zope view as object file system instead of web content management

2000-05-28 Thread Sin Hang Kin
Hello DC: It have been pointed out that zope is an object file system instead of an web content management system. But the current activities of zope usage have been mainly apply it as an web app server. This point of view may not release fully the potentials of zope. We have currently seen

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.1.6 minor ZCatalog bug?

2000-05-28 Thread Dieter Maurer
I have a ZCatalog object in Zope's root folder. Its ContentView uses absolute URL's to reference its objects: e.g. "//acl_users" rather than "/acl_users". Such URL's cause a browser to interprete the first URL part as host. In the above case, it looks for host "acl_users" which, of cause, does

Re: [Zope-dev] Memory 2.1.4-2.1.6 a.k.a. how to get objects out of the cache

2000-05-28 Thread Eric Sattler
All, I also am having severe problems with memory creep. Our problem exhibits itself by quickly using gobs of memory and requiring a zope restart after about a day and a half at about 100M resident. First our configuration: Core Components: FreeBSD 4.0/FreeBSD 3.4 - on separate machines of

[Zope-dev] Preprocessed Output

2000-05-28 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
A common pattern when developing in Zope is to have a sort of Document that contains text with some special codes, and then to render them and return the output to the user. So we have DTML Documents, and Structured Text Documents, and Python Methods, and I've written a few for my own use and

[Zope-dev] Problems with RackMountable

2000-05-28 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
I'm adding some RackMountable objects (subclassed from RackMountable and SimpleItem.Item) and when I try to access them via URL I get an AttributeError like they don't have attribute __of__: Traceback (innermost last): File

Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with LoginManager form-based login

2000-05-28 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 06:14 PM 5/26/00 -0400, Evan Simpson wrote: D'oh! How 'bout if REQUEST.close() were to always do a self.__dict__.clear()? Are you absolutely positively sure that REQUEST.response is never accessed following REQUEST.close()? In my cursory examination of the code paths, I wasn't sure that

Re: [Zope-dev] [Fwd: ZCatalog.. Again.. I know..]

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers
"R. David Murray" wrote: On Wed, 24 May 2000, Chris Withers wrote: This is weird... the bit of code in question was: lib/python/SearchIndex/Lexicon.py line 132: [...] Now Michel's patch was to change this to: else: self.counter = self.counter + 1

[Zope-dev] Case Insensitive TextIndices

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers
Since www.zope.org and classic.zope.org (not to mention digicool.com) all seem to be down, I'll dump my feature request here (although given the lack of mail this morning, maybe mailman is down too ;-) Could it at least be an option, my view is that it should be the default option ;-), for text

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers
Tres Seaver wrote: who's the CTO? Jim is. Okay, I get the joke now :-) * "persistent" references are effectively required to be immortal: it is _mandated_ that one be able to stringify the IOR, copy it to a piece of paper, put the paper in a bottle, and cast it on the waves;

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] newbie question: parameter passing for ZSQL Object

2000-05-28 Thread Stephan Richter
With dtml-call insertItem, Zope gives me following error message: If the parameters are from another SQL statement, then the SQL method will not find them, since not the entire namespace is sent. Try: dtml-call "insertItem(param1=pvalue1, param2=pvalue2, param3=pvalue3, param4=pvalue4)"

Re: [Zope-dev] Memory 2.1.4-2.1.6 a.k.a. how to get objects out of the cache

2000-05-28 Thread Bill Anderson
Eric Sattler wrote: All, I also am having severe problems with memory creep. Our problem exhibits itself by quickly using gobs of memory and requiring a zope restart after about a day and a half at about 100M resident. [...] I do see GenericUserFolder and SQLSession objects with the

Re: [Zope-dev] use ODBC to access other database

2000-05-28 Thread Chris McDonough
Thomas Weholt wrote: Does anybody know if there are a Interbase-databaseadapter in development? Interbase is open-source, free etc. and allready an established product so it would be strange if it wasn`t supported by Zope, at least in the future. Thomas, There is a python-level Interbase

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.1.6 ZCatalog: minor bug, missing find import -- with patch

2000-05-28 Thread Dieter Maurer
I just found a minor bug in Zope 2.1.6's ZCatalog (distribution). "ZCatalog.py" does not import "find". If the "containing" field contains a value, a NameError exception is raised. Patch appended. Dieter ZCatalog.pat

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.1.6 DateTime bug: daylight saving time not handled -- with patch

2000-05-28 Thread Dieter Maurer
The Zope 2.1.6 DateTime module does not recognize daylight saving time. Patch attached. Dieter --- lib/python/DateTime/:DateTime.py Tue Mar 14 18:04:59 2000 +++ lib/python/DateTime/DateTime.py Sun May 28 18:43:28 2000 @@ -94,6 +94,8 @@ from types import

[Zope-dev] Cataloging LocalFS content

2000-05-28 Thread Dieter Maurer
Dear Zopistas, I think, cataloging "LocalFS" content would be nice. I have the following problems with it: 1. "LocalFS" defines various meta types: "Local File System", "Local Directory" and "Local File". Only "Local File System" is a "true" meta type which should appear in the

[Zope] ?

2000-05-28 Thread Patrick J.M. Keane
Anyone else getting 5 copies of the same message, or is it just me? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope] ?

2000-05-28 Thread Chris McDonough
Yeah, the machine the hosts the mail lists is a little confused right now. I'm working on it... Up until a little while ago, and since Friday evening, mail addressed to the mail list wasn't going anywhere at all. Sorry folks!! This should be fixed in a little bit... "Patrick J.M. Keane"

[Zope] SQL returns as dtml-sqlvar foobar ?

2000-05-28 Thread Richard Smith
Say I have a query like.. SELECT * FROM foo; Can I, in Zope have the results come back so I can use then as dtml-sqlvars in other statements. Like have a link to update a row at the end of a table ? If so can someone give me an example ? Thanks Richard

Re: [Zope] Images and tag tag

2000-05-28 Thread Michael Bernstein
peter wrote: I use the nifty Image object and an extra tag to it. like this dtml-var "myimage_gif.tag(border=0)" But what I want to do is this: IMG ONMOUSEOVER="this.style.cursor = 'HAND'" ONMOUSEUP="document.bgColor='#FFCCFF'" SRC="myimage_gif" width=118 height=77 border=0 I have

[Zope] Help Executing install

2000-05-28 Thread Darin Mosier
I'm trying to get zope installed on my Unix server. I have untared the main file and everything is on the server in a local directory. My problem is I can't execute the file "install" from the server. Can someone please tell me the program or terminal I use to login my Unix server. Thanks

Re: [Zope] Perl Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers
Paul Everitt wrote: You're absolutely right on this. Amos' post recently described the various things in various stages of release that should give some hope for the situation. These things really are an improvement. I'm crossing my fingers that this turns into a torrent of material that

Re: [Zope] newbie question: parameter passing for ZSQL Object

2000-05-28 Thread Stephan Richter
With dtml-call insertItem, Zope gives me following error message: If the parameters are from another SQL statement, then the SQL method will not find them, since not the entire namespace is sent. Try: dtml-call "insertItem(param1=pvalue1, param2=pvalue2, param3=pvalue3, param4=pvalue4)"

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Jimmie Houchin
I have kept silent on this issue while watching comments fly by. I'll agree with a comment Paul made about passions being high and that can be a good thing. Disagreements are sometimes inevitable, however we do not have to be disagreeable. It seems that many here who do not share the concerns

[Zope] Deprecation of dtml-var ?

2000-05-28 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I've noticed that just about every new Zope user gets bitten by dtml-var foo == dtml-var name="foo" and dtml-var "foo" == dtml-var expr="foo". Messages reflecting this confusion come to the Zope list frequently. Everyone appreciates the shorthand, and everyone does eventually learn the

Re: [Zope] Perl Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Paul Everitt wrote: Adam wrote: What makes me most uncomfortable about this is the opportunity cost. Every hour of development time integrating Perl is one less hour As I tried to mention in my "Redux" post a few moments ago, this isn't the case. ActiveState is doing the

RE: [Zope] Building ZPyGreSQLDA on Linux

2000-05-28 Thread Charlie Derr
My problem fits under this subject so i thought i'd hijack it :-] I have redhat 6.1, and i've installed and gotten postgresql 7.0 working okay (at least i can create tables at a psql prompt and insert data). I have zope 2.1.6 and after untarring the ZPyGreSQLDA, the README.txt file says to do

[Zope] O'Reilly Book on Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Andyman
Hey, a few month ago I read on this list that there will be an O'Reilly Book on Zope. I am waiting for that book! How far is it? Andyman ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML

[Zope] Hot backups

2000-05-28 Thread Patrick J.M. Keane
Is there any facility in Zope for doing a hot backup, without shuting down zope, taking a backup copy of var -- can this result in inconsistencies in the internal DB, or does it use something mystical to prevent corruption? If not, what other options exist for this? Thanks Patrick

Re: [Zope] Hadar's Thoughts on Perl for Zope (LONG)

2000-05-28 Thread Jimmie Houchin
I would like to thank Paul, Jim and Hadar for expressing their opinions, desires and goals for Zope in a level headed and rational manner which did not necessitate the putting down of others opinions. This kind of leadership at DC for Zope is one of the greatest encouragements I have for using

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers
mindlace wrote: I don't quite see why MailHost isn't "low level integration" Does MailHost do recieves as well as sends? My dream would be for Zope to pipe an email address to a specific object/method without the need for any external mail servers or scripts... Making Zope an MTA

Re: [Zope] PROPOSAL: Online chat with Jim and Paul

2000-05-28 Thread Steve Alexander
Paul Everitt wrote: I propose an IRC chat on Wednesday with Jim Fulton and me. Try and pick a time that's not *too* late at night for us Europeans. -- Steve Alexander Software Engineer Cat-Box limited ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Zope] Hot backups

2000-05-28 Thread Chris McDonough
Patrick, as the Data.fs file is always appended to (as opposed to being overwritten in places), I think you should be OK backing it up on the fly. "Patrick J.M. Keane" wrote: Is there any facility in Zope for doing a hot backup, without shuting down zope, taking a backup copy of var -- can

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Are Python Products considered implementation level? Or another question. What are the current reasons that Perl Products are a no no? Where are the lines for having other languages being first class citizens of Zope without them being "implementation languages"? I think this also goes back to