Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-12 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 8/11/06, John P. Looney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zope 3 has very flexible skinning support, which allows you to alter the look and, to some extend, the feel of the ZMI. You can reach other skins by using the ++skin++ URL namespace. One nice skin is ZopeTop, which is excluded from the Zope

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-11 Thread John P. Looney
On 8/4/06, Gabriel Genellina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is a "DHTML page" here?In Zope you have "DTML Methods" and "DTML Documents". Both are OBJECTS, not PAGES. Ah. Sorry. Many years with development of other systems left me using the wrong grammar. The 'page' would be what I'd hoped to displ

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-04 Thread Gabriel Genellina
At Friday 4/8/2006 05:21, John P. Looney wrote: On 8/4/06, Gabriel Genellina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Page Templates are easier to use instead of DTML. True, but this is just starting off, to make sure it works. if it=='Zope': print "It works!" >KeyError: u'date

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-04 Thread John P. Looney
On 8/4/06, Gabriel Genellina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Page Templates are easier to use instead of DTML. True, but this is just starting off, to make sure it works. >   File> "/tmp/Zope-3.2.1/build/lib.linux-i686-2.4/zope/documenttemplate/dt_var.py",> line 207, in render> raise KeyError(name)>

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread Gabriel Genellina
At Thursday 3/8/2006 20:14, John P. Looney wrote: Hey, I've made my first page, though it's not working as I'd like. This is the contents of the page: testing Going ! asdasda Page Templates are easier to use instead of DTML. File "/tmp/Zope-3.2.1/build/lib.linux-i686-2.4/zope/doc

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread David H
John P. Looney wrote: Hey, I've made my first page, though it's not working as I'd like. This is the contents of the page: testing Going ! asdasda But, the error logs show that it's not happy... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/tmp/Zope-3.2.1/build/lib.linux-i686-2.4/

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread John P. Looney
 Hey, I've made my first page, though it's not working as I'd like. This is the contents of the page: testing Going ! asdasda  But, the error logs show that it's not happy... Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/tmp/Zope-3.2.1/build/lib.linux-i686-2.4/zope/publisher/publish.py", line 138, i

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
The Python distros are generally quite OK and stable now, and useful even for production systems, even though I fully understand that people prefer to compile their own, if for no other reason to have one specific for Zope, so that no package version suddenly gets upgraded to something incompatibl

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread John P. Looney
On 8/3/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This has nothing to do with "1980s", just with sanity. Or do youthink it's OK to use some distribution-installed Python where youhave no idea how it has been built and which maybe upgraded withoutyour knowledge and cause breakage in your Zope set

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3 Aug 2006, at 11:33, John P. Looney wrote: On 8/3/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are no supported RPMs. Those that are out there have been created by third parties and are really old and not supported. If you're running in

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread John P. Looney
On 8/3/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are no supported RPMs. Those that are out there have beencreated by third parties and are really old and not supported.If you're running in a production environment and want to ensure yourZope setup is not affected by system updates it is r

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 3 Aug 2006, at 10:46, John P. Looney wrote: Oh. There aren't any more recent RPMS then ? I really really hate installing stuff from source anymore, esp. when other admins on the same system have a tendancy to upgrade packages like python and everything else without checking does ever

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread John P. Looney
 Oh. There aren't any more recent RPMS then ? I really really hate installing stuff from source anymore, esp. when other admins on the same system have a tendancy to upgrade packages like python and everything else without checking does everything still run  For the record; it was both that zop

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3 Aug 2006, at 10:25, John P. Looney wrote: Hey, after four years, I've finally found the time to go back & look at Zope again. Unfortunately, after installing the RPM (zope-2.7.2-0.1.2.el4.rf, I ran: For your own sanity, ditch that u

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread Chris McDonough
It's also possible that the error message is signifying that Zope is already started and you're trying to start it again. - C On Aug 3, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Jean Jordaan wrote: Hi John File "/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py", line 232, in __init__ self._lock_file = LockFile

Re: [Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread Jean Jordaan
Hi John > File "/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py", line 232, in > __init__ > self._lock_file = LockFile(file_name + '.lock') [...] > IOError: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable > > Anyone know what's going on ? Is it trying to read a file called > '' ? No, it's failin

[Zope] new user, teething problems

2006-08-03 Thread John P. Looney
 Hey, after four years, I've finally found the time to go back & look at Zope again. Unfortunately, after installing the RPM (zope-2.7.2-0.1.2.el4.rf, I ran:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# zopectl adduser the_power password Traceback (most recent call last):  File "", line 1, in ?  File "/usr/lib/zope/lib/