Re: [Zope] Re: Packing data.fs programmatically

2006-02-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl


On 25 Feb 2006, at 04:27, Derrick Hudson wrote:

| Then introduce it, it's simple to set up and adds a world of
| functionality!

I could.  I'd have to learn how to work with it :-).  The deployments
I've worked with are all single uniprocessor machines, thus ZEO
wouldn't yield a performance improvement.  I should learn ZEO one of
these days.


Thinking of ZEO just as a "performance improvement" is doing it a  
great disservice. Think of it simply in terms of decoupling the  
appserver from the database server and the flexibility that gives you  
by being able to access the database server separately.


jens

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[Zope] Re: Packing data.fs programmatically

2006-02-24 Thread Derrick Hudson
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 09:18:35PM +, Chris Withers wrote:
| Derrick Hudson wrote:
| >Chris,
| >
| >On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:36:36PM +, Chris Withers wrote:
| >| ZEO & Stepper
| >
| >Is ZEO required to use Stepper?
| 
| Yes, otherwise you'd have to shut down your Zope instance to run Stepper ;-)
| 
| >Does 'zopectl run' require exclusive access to the database?  (IOW
| >must the zope server be stopped before zopectl run can be used?)
| 
| Not if you're using ZEO.

Thanks Paul and Chris.

| >I just came across this thread and have a situation where this would
| >be useful, however ZEO is not used for that deployment.
| 
| Then introduce it, it's simple to set up and adds a world of
| functionality!

I could.  I'd have to learn how to work with it :-).  The deployments
I've worked with are all single uniprocessor machines, thus ZEO
wouldn't yield a performance improvement.  I should learn ZEO one of
these days.

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[Zope] Re: Packing data.fs programmatically

2006-02-24 Thread Chris Withers

Derrick Hudson wrote:

Chris,

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:36:36PM +, Chris Withers wrote:
| ZEO & Stepper

Is ZEO required to use Stepper?


Yes, otherwise you'd have to shut down your Zope instance to run Stepper ;-)


Does 'zopectl run' require exclusive access to the database?  (IOW
must the zope server be stopped before zopectl run can be used?)


Not if you're using ZEO.


I just came across this thread and have a situation where this would
be useful, however ZEO is not used for that deployment.


Then introduce it, it's simple to set up and adds a world of functionality!

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Re: Packing data.fs programmatically

2006-02-23 Thread Paul Winkler
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 11:27:59AM -0500, Derrick Hudson wrote:
> Does 'zopectl run' require exclusive access to the database?  (IOW
> must the zope server be stopped before zopectl run can be used?)

Yes, IFF you are not running zeo.

That's another useful reason to use zeo :-)
 
> I just came across this thread and have a situation where this would
> be useful, however ZEO is not used for that deployment.

Ah, that's a shame.

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[Zope] Re: Packing data.fs programmatically

2006-02-23 Thread Derrick Hudson
Chris,

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:36:36PM +, Chris Withers wrote:
| ZEO & Stepper

Is ZEO required to use Stepper?

| Or if you don't like Stepper, then zopectl run...

Does 'zopectl run' require exclusive access to the database?  (IOW
must the zope server be stopped before zopectl run can be used?)


I just came across this thread and have a situation where this would
be useful, however ZEO is not used for that deployment.

-D

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Re: [Zope] Re: Packing data.fs programmatically

2006-01-31 Thread Chris Withers

The product comes with a whole raft of examples for doing things:

http://www.simplistix.co.uk/software/zope/stepper

base.py and config.py contain the examples, lemme know if you have any 
problems...


Chris

Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:36:36PM +, Chris Withers wrote:


ZEO & Stepper

Or if you don't like Stepper, then zopectl run...

Chris


Sounds interesting. Do you have a working example that you can post 
here?




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Re: [Zope] Re: Packing data.fs programmatically

2006-01-31 Thread Reinoud van Leeuwen
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:36:36PM +, Chris Withers wrote:

> ZEO & Stepper
> 
> Or if you don't like Stepper, then zopectl run...
> 
> Chris

Sounds interesting. Do you have a working example that you can post 
here?

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Re: [Zope] Re: Packing data.fs programmatically

2006-01-31 Thread Chris Withers

ZEO & Stepper

Or if you don't like Stepper, then zopectl run...

Chris

Max M wrote:

Chris Withers wrote:

Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:



I do it though the webinterface with a wget from the crontab:

@daily cd /some_path/zeo_server/var && \
   cp Data.fs Data.fs.pre_pack_backup && \
   /usr/local/bin/wget \
  
'http://myzopeserver/Control_Panel/Database/manage_pack?days:float=0'\

   --http-user=special_user \
   --http-passwd='some_password' \
   --spider &&\cp Data.fs Data.fs.post_pack_backup



Oh, ouch ouch bad fragile pain failure suffering...

URL whacking is evil and must be punished...


What is the better way then? ZEO and ordinary Python scripts?




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[Zope] Re: Packing data.fs programmatically

2006-01-31 Thread Max M

Chris Withers wrote:

Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:



I do it though the webinterface with a wget from the crontab:

@daily cd /some_path/zeo_server/var && \
   cp Data.fs Data.fs.pre_pack_backup && \
   /usr/local/bin/wget \
  
'http://myzopeserver/Control_Panel/Database/manage_pack?days:float=0'\

   --http-user=special_user \
   --http-passwd='some_password' \
   --spider &&\cp Data.fs Data.fs.post_pack_backup



Oh, ouch ouch bad fragile pain failure suffering...

URL whacking is evil and must be punished...


What is the better way then? ZEO and ordinary Python scripts?


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[Zope] Re: Packing data.fs programmatically

2006-01-31 Thread Jonathan Cleaver

Ah-ha, that's another approach I had not thought of!

Many thanks!

Cheers

Jonathan

Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:38:34AM +, Jonathan Cleaver wrote:

I am using the following module to pack my data.fs programmatically 
before a backup is made. This was largely taken out of the Zopelabs 
cookbook - thanks!



I do it though the webinterface with a wget from the crontab:

@daily cd /some_path/zeo_server/var && \
   cp Data.fs Data.fs.pre_pack_backup && \
   /usr/local/bin/wget \
  'http://myzopeserver/Control_Panel/Database/manage_pack?days:float=0'\
   --http-user=special_user \
   --http-passwd='some_password' \
   --spider &&\ 
   cp Data.fs Data.fs.post_pack_backup





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