Re: [Zope] [JOB][OT?] Position for a Python/Zope developer in Pula, Cagliari (CA), Italy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco Bizzarri wrote: I won't start a religious war on IDE editors :) Perhaps making your requirment clear without provocative side-comments would have been more in line with your intent: just naming Eclipse+PyDev, for instance (familiarity with any other IDE is unlikely to help with the learning curve issues you describe). Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkw9t4AACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ6ZYQCfeYmT8Kr6E51JEH2udXd9VLCE ejIAniJMLjJQodnzLcU4rFGQKREZCA+o =opQL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] [JOB][OT?] Position for a Python/Zope developer in Pula, Cagliari (CA), Italy
Hi all. Sorry if this is a little OT, but maybe someone could be interested: `Liberologico Srl http://www.liberologico.com`__ (Pisa, PI, Italy) **Job Description**: Senior Software Developer Liberologico is looking for an developer with good experience in Zope and Python. The developer will be responsible for porting a large IT application developed with the Zope/Python/PostgreSQL stack to a cloud environment. **What we expect you know** * computer science degree or better; * OOA/D (we expect at least you know use cases, design patterns and UML); * Python as an OOA/D language (not just for making scripts; we've a large and complex application); * Zope, when developing Python-based products (not just TTW applications); * IDE tools (emacs does not count as an IDE; vi* neither; Eclipse+PyDev is preferred); * Subversion and other version control systems (merge and branches, tracking third-party code); * PostgreSQL (a little more than making queries like you would do with any other database); * Linux system administration (you know how to make a script executable on a Linux, don't you?); * Test-driven development * Unit-testing **Where the work will take place** * Centro Polaris (http://www.sardegnaricerche.it/), Pula, Cagliari, Italy **Contact Info:** * **Contact**: Marco Bizzarri * **E-mail contact**: m.bizza...@liberologico.com * **No telecommuting** == -- Marco Bizzarri http://code.google.com/p/qt-asterisk/ http://notenotturne.blogspot.com/ http://iliveinpisa.blogspot.com/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [JOB][OT?] Position for a Python/ Zope developer in Pula, Cagliari (CA), Italy
On Tuesday, July 13, 2010, Marco Bizzarri wrote: * IDE tools (emacs does not count as an IDE; vi* neither; Eclipse+PyDev is preferred); I am usually not commenting on things like that, but: What a turn off! This is one of the worst requirements I have ever seen. ;-) Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. Zope Stephan Richter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [JOB][OT?] Position for a Python/Zope developer in Pula, Cagliari (CA), Italy
On Tue, Jul 13, Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday, July 13, 2010, Marco Bizzarri wrote: * IDE tools (emacs does not count as an IDE; vi* neither; Eclipse+PyDev is preferred); I am usually not commenting on things like that, but: What a turn off! This is one of the worst requirements I have ever seen. ;-) Yeah, that one had me shaking my head as well ... \\kristian -- ... et nemo ex vobis interrogat me: »Quo vadis?« ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [JOB][OT?] Position for a Python/Zope developer in Pula, Cagliari (CA), Italy
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Kristian Thy t...@42.dk wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday, July 13, 2010, Marco Bizzarri wrote: * IDE tools (emacs does not count as an IDE; vi* neither; Eclipse+PyDev is preferred); I am usually not commenting on things like that, but: What a turn off! This is one of the worst requirements I have ever seen. ;-) Yeah, that one had me shaking my head as well ... \\kristian -- ... et nemo ex vobis interrogat me: »Quo vadis?« Well, it's interesting to see such a reaction; we've seen steep learning (and adapting) curve from an emacs/vi environment to an IDE like Eclipse; since we're a development shop working on Eclipse for all our projects (Java, PHP, Python), we required knowledge and practice of such a tool. Anyway, I assure no emacs/vi guy got injured in writing this requirement ;) Regards Marco -- Marco Bizzarri http://code.google.com/p/qt-asterisk/ http://notenotturne.blogspot.com/ http://iliveinpisa.blogspot.com/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [JOB][OT?] Position for a Python/Zope developer in Pula, Cagliari (CA), Italy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco Bizzarri wrote: Anyway, I assure no emacs/vi guy got injured in writing this requirement ;) Nope, but we had our morning fun :) Andreas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkw8WXAACgkQCJIWIbr9KYzf1QCffPZVzp/KYU+82/GQKjtvElDu CaYAoNkFL4w1d6+AZfUqf6njD3Y+4DDr =8tGf -END PGP SIGNATURE- attachment: lists.vcf___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [JOB][OT?] Position for a Python/Zope developer in Pula, Cagliari (CA), Italy
+---[ Marco Bizzarri ]-- | | Well, it's interesting to see such a reaction; we've seen steep learning (and adapting) curve from an emacs/vi environment to an | IDE like Eclipse; since we're a development shop working on Eclipse for all our projects (Java, PHP, Python), we required | knowledge and practice of such a tool. | | Anyway, I assure no emacs/vi guy got injured in writing this requirement ;) If your IDE is so awful that you need to specifically mention that your new developers know how to use it, I think you need a new IDE, because that one is not doing its job d8) -- Andrew Milton a...@theinternet.com.au ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [JOB][OT?] Position for a Python/Zope developer in Pula, Cagliari (CA), Italy
Marco Bizzarri wrote: I won't start a religious war on IDE editors :) You already did by putting such a ridiculous requirement in a job ad. Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [JOB][OT?] Position for a Python/Zope developer in Pula, Cagliari (CA), Italy
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.ukwrote: Marco Bizzarri wrote: I won't start a religious war on IDE editors :) You already did by putting such a ridiculous requirement in a job ad. Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk As I said before, I've no interest in starting such a war; you find this is a ridiculous requirement: fine, you're more than entitled to have your opinion. Regards Marco -- Marco Bizzarri http://code.google.com/p/qt-asterisk/ http://notenotturne.blogspot.com/ http://iliveinpisa.blogspot.com/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [JOB][OT?] Position for a Python/Zope developer in Pula, Cagliari (CA), Italy
On 13 July 2010 11:20, Marco Bizzarri marco.bizza...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: Marco Bizzarri wrote: I won't start a religious war on IDE editors :) You already did by putting such a ridiculous requirement in a job ad. Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk As I said before, I've no interest in starting such a war; you find this is a ridiculous requirement: fine, you're more than entitled to have your opinion. I think what the senior developers react to here isn't the particular choice. You could have written Vim is preferred and people would still think: Do they want me to write with my left or right hand or do they want me to get the job done. Anyway, best of luck Marco! Regards Marco -- Marco Bizzarri http://code.google.com/p/qt-asterisk/ http://notenotturne.blogspot.com/ http://iliveinpisa.blogspot.com/ ___ Zope maillist - z...@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby www.issuetrackerproduct.com fun crosstips.org ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
