Re: [Zope] CZAN Anyone?

2001-01-02 Thread Andy McKay

 Lots of reasons, mainly motivated by laziness^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H me not
 having the time to keep up with everything, I want to be informed
 automatically :)

 Cya
 Jonathan

:) laziness is good, otherwise people would just keep doing things the hard
way...


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Re: [Zope] CZAN Anyone?

2001-01-02 Thread Andy McKay

I did actually start toying with this on the holidays for the hell of it.
But then got bored and started relaxing instead. Basically my first task was
putting basic product info in a more friendly xml format...
http://zope.agmweb.ca/Zope/products

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  Lots of reasons, mainly motivated by laziness^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H me not
  having the time to keep up with everything, I want to be informed
  automatically :)
 
  Cya
  Jonathan

 :) laziness is good, otherwise people would just keep doing things the
hard
 way...


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RE: [Zope] CZAN Anyone?

2000-12-26 Thread Jonathan \(Listserv Account\)

 What does cpan give you that zope.org doesnt, I can go into
 zope.org, look at modules documentation, download them and
 so on. Same with CPAN. Ok so maybe it doesnt have simple and
 interfaces to it such as listings by author, module and so
 on...

 The next step would be automated installation, which would be
 nice. A simple interface to select a module, install it and
 restart your Zope. A much extended Control Panel...

Zope.org does not know my particular installation, I cannot have it
notify me when a new version is out. It doesn't automatically 'follow'
dependencies etc. etc.

Lots of reasons, mainly motivated by laziness^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H me not
having the time to keep up with everything, I want to be informed
automatically :)

Cya
Jonathan


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[Zope] CZAN Anyone?

2000-12-22 Thread Jonathan \(ListServ Account\)

Hi all,

Does anyone have any plans for CPAN like functionality for Zope? I'd
just love to install new products, update products already installed,
get notified when I need a Hotfix etc. The product listing at Zope.org
is getting longer all the time and I am having a hard time keeping up to
date...

Just a thought. Probably been thought of before :)

Cya
Jonathan


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Re: [Zope] CZAN Anyone?

2000-12-22 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer

On Friday 22 December 2000, at 12 h 50, the keyboard of "Jonathan \(ListServ 
Account\)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone have any plans for CPAN like functionality for Zope? 

It would be a very good idea. The CPAN is the main strenght of Perl (if someone cites 
the Vaults as a Python equivalent, it means he never used the CPAN). 

In the mean time, I've reserved czan.org and .net (for the community: of course, I 
will give them back freely when someone will implement it) unless people prefer 
zopefind.net (like rpmfind.net)?



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RE: [Zope] CZAN Anyone?

2000-12-22 Thread Jonathan \(ListServ Account\)

 It would be a very good idea. The CPAN is the main strenght
 of Perl (if someone cites the Vaults as a Python equivalent,
 it means he never used the CPAN).

 In the mean time, I've reserved czan.org and .net (for the
 community: of course, I will give them back freely when
 someone will implement it) unless people prefer zopefind.net
 (like rpmfind.net)?

Somebody has to own the domain :)  I'm got space available for a CZAN
mirror if necessary. It might be something that benefits the Python
community as a whole, not just Zope users, in which case 'CZAN' is not
entirely correct ;)  But hey, let's start somewhere right?

Such a product would allow users to access CZAN from within the Zope
Interface and work a bit like MS' Windows Update (if you're not familiar
with it, it rules for upgrading Windows machines over the Internet).
Install new products, new versions, hotfixes. Upgrade Zope itself.
Integrate with ZEO etc. to upgrade clusters of machines all at once...

Just thinking out loud here :)  Anyone from DigiCool care to comment?
How much of it is already in the pipeline?

Cya
Jonathan


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Re: [Zope] CZAN Anyone?

2000-12-22 Thread Andy McKay

 On Friday 22 December 2000, at 12 h 50, the keyboard of "Jonathan
\(ListServ
 Account\)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Does anyone have any plans for CPAN like functionality for Zope?

 It would be a very good idea. The CPAN is the main strenght of Perl (if
someone cites the Vaults as a Python equivalent, it means he never used the
CPAN).

What does cpan give you that zope.org doesnt, I can go into zope.org, look
at modules documentation, download them and so on. Same with CPAN. Ok so
maybe it doesnt have simple and interfaces to it such as listings by author,
module and so on...

The next step would be automated installation, which would be nice. A simple
interface to select a module, install it and restart your Zope. A much
extended Control Panel...


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Re: [Zope] CZAN Anyone?

2000-12-22 Thread Andy McKay

   Well, if you're going to be pedantic -- then it's only fair to mention
   that PPM is of ActiveState's devising, otherwise 'perl -MCPAN -e shell'
   does the trick, using Bundle::CPAN.

   Sorry... just had to point that out.   (c8=

Very true, just covering my own little world there for obvious reasons...
mind you the growth of ppm so to non ActiveState repositories has been
great.

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