Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-14 Thread Christophe Tronche
1) for the record, lapaye.fr is a (profitable) software editor that has been building business applications on the top of Zope 2 for 5 years (payroll software, not plone or whatever). We don't intend to switch to another platform in the foreseeable future [we're zope2.9 right now]. Python programme

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-11 Thread Chris Withers
Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: > Hi. FYI, I have a client using Zope 2 in production. I am migrating > him from Zope 2.7 on SUSE 10.1 to Zope 2.10 on CentOS 5.2. > > He's not using plone. He has a custom Web app. He expects to keep > using Zope 2, and to continue development of our Web applicatio

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:55, Dieter Maurer wrote: > With my current experience, the Zope 3 way to handle skins is considerably > more > work then the previous CMF skinning. True, you have a separate namespace > for views and thus avoid name clashes in edge cases -- but is this > really worth th

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-09 Thread Dieter Maurer
Tim Nash wrote at 2009-4-5 14:05 -0700: >Also, I have been critical of the zope 3 line because I love zope 2 >and it appears to me that zope 3 is killing zope 2. I share your feeling. With my current experience, the Zope 3 way to handle skins is considerably more work then the previous CMF skinni

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-05 Thread Tim Nash
Looks like gmail won't append a sig to a draft email. Anyway here is my sig. -- Tim Nash Lead Developer http://www.sanmateowaveforms.com Zope/Plone: distribute your web applications as desktop applications. Installs on mac and windows with one click.

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-05 Thread Tim Nash
Thanks for this post Jürgen. You made me think of my agenda. My agenda is to promote Zope/Plone as a great way to create web applications that you also want to distribute as desktop applications. I have posted about this a long time ago but there is no reason for anyone on this list to remember, e

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-03 Thread Jürgen Herrmann
On Fri, April 3, 2009 21:18, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: > Hi. FYI, I have a client using Zope 2 in production. I am migrating > him from Zope 2.7 on SUSE 10.1 to Zope 2.10 on CentOS 5.2. > > He's not using plone. He has a custom Web app. He expects to keep > using Zope 2, and to continue devel

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-03 Thread Aleksey Tsalolikhin
Hi. FYI, I have a client using Zope 2 in production. I am migrating him from Zope 2.7 on SUSE 10.1 to Zope 2.10 on CentOS 5.2. He's not using plone. He has a custom Web app. He expects to keep using Zope 2, and to continue development of our Web application. Best, Aleksey Tsalolikhin Unix sy

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-03 Thread Chris Withers
Tim Nash wrote: >>> *This* community is dead, get over it and move on. > > Yeah, you are right. > > If you really think zope 3 (or 4) can stand on it's own, "zope 3 app server" has a small community of users who've indicated they're not wedded to that brand continuing. "the zope framework" i

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
2009/4/2 Tim Nash : > If you really think zope 3 (or 4) can stand on it's own, just rename > zope 2 to 'plone base'. That will cut down on the confusion. There are many more that uses Zope 2 besides Plone. But it is true, and also likely A Good Thing that Zope 2 doesn't get many new users nowadays

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-02 Thread Tim Nash
> > *This* community is dead, get over it and move on. Yeah, you are right. If you really think zope 3 (or 4) can stand on it's own, just rename zope 2 to 'plone base'. That will cut down on the confusion. But beware, unless you can make zope 4 more appealling to a wider group of casual develop

[Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-02 Thread Chris Withers
Tim Nash wrote: > No your response and Jens response are totally inappropriate. We will > never rebuild this community if all our posts are greeted with personal > attacks. *This* community is dead, get over it and move on. Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting