Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF write performance as poor as Plone?

2008-11-23 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ross Patterson wrote: > Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Ross Patterson wrote: >>> Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Andreas Jung wrote: > On 23.11.2008 11:57 Uhr, Charlie Clark wrote: >> Am 23.11.2008 um 09:24 schri

Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF write performance as poor as Plone?

2008-11-23 Thread Ross Patterson
Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ross Patterson wrote: >> Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Andreas Jung wrote: On 23.11.2008 11:57 Uhr, Charlie Clark wrote: > Am 23.11.2008 um 09:24 schrieb Andreas Jung: > >> This issue is independent of the client-side. ab

Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF write performance as poor as Plone?

2008-11-23 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ross Patterson wrote: > Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Andreas Jung wrote: >>> On 23.11.2008 11:57 Uhr, Charlie Clark wrote: Am 23.11.2008 um 09:24 schrieb Andreas Jung: > This issue is independent of the client-side. ab2 a

Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF write performance as poor as Plone?

2008-11-23 Thread Ross Patterson
Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andreas Jung wrote: >> On 23.11.2008 11:57 Uhr, Charlie Clark wrote: >>> Am 23.11.2008 um 09:24 schrieb Andreas Jung: >>> This issue is independent of the client-side. ab2 and cmf/plone were running on the same (fast) machine. >>> >>> Is this rea

Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF write performance as poor as Plone?

2008-11-23 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: > On 23.11.2008 11:57 Uhr, Charlie Clark wrote: >> Am 23.11.2008 um 09:24 schrieb Andreas Jung: >> >>> This issue is independent of the client-side. ab2 and cmf/plone were >>> running on the same (fast) machine. >> >> Is this really

[Zope-CMF] CMF Tests: 6 OK

2008-11-23 Thread CMF Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the cmf-tests list. Period Sat Nov 22 12:00:00 2008 UTC to Sun Nov 23 12:00:00 2008 UTC. There were 6 messages: 6 from CMF Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : CMF-2.1 Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.5 : Linux From: CMF Tests Date: Sat Nov 22 21:02:00 EST 2008 URL: ht

Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF write performance as poor as Plone?

2008-11-23 Thread Andreas Jung
On 23.11.2008 11:57 Uhr, Charlie Clark wrote: Am 23.11.2008 um 09:24 schrieb Andreas Jung: This issue is independent of the client-side. ab2 and cmf/plone were running on the same (fast) machine. Is this really content that is suited for the ZODB? I am talking of the standard content-type

Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF write performance as poor as Plone?

2008-11-23 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 23.11.2008 um 09:24 schrieb Andreas Jung: > This issue is independent of the client-side. ab2 and cmf/plone were > running on the same (fast) machine. Is this really content that is suited for the ZODB? I'm just thinking of an environment with lots of concurrent writes and content manage

Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF write performance as poor as Plone?

2008-11-23 Thread Dieter Maurer
Andreas Jung wrote at 2008-11-23 09:24 +0100: > ... >> Have you profiled an individual request to learn what the time is spent for? >> >> If the time is dominated by client side activity, you need client side >> skaling to increase the throughput significantly. > >> >> If, on the other hand, the ti

Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF write performance as poor as Plone?

2008-11-23 Thread Andreas Jung
On 23.11.2008 9:17 Uhr, Dieter Maurer wrote: Andreas Jung wrote at 2008-11-21 07:31 +0100: ... write performance ... However the transaction size does not seem to have any impact on the number of simulataneous writes. Have you profiled an individual request to learn what the time is spent for?

Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF write performance as poor as Plone?

2008-11-23 Thread Dieter Maurer
Andreas Jung wrote at 2008-11-21 07:31 +0100: > ... write performance ... >However the transaction size does not >seem to have any impact on the number of simulataneous writes. Have you profiled an individual request to learn what the time is spent for? If the time is dominated by client side ac

Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF write performance as poor as Plone?

2008-11-23 Thread Andreas Jung
On 22.11.2008 15:39 Uhr, Charlie Clark wrote: Hi Andreas, a very interesting situation. I've never thought of object creation when choosing "pure" CMF over Plone as this is largely a ZODB issue. As Roché points out it is less likely to be the transactions and more likely to be the cataloguing

Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] Should portal_setup be registered as utility?

2008-11-23 Thread Dieter Maurer
Charlie Clark wrote at 2008-11-20 20:33 +0100: > ... >Agreed. If third party tools have problems, then they should provide >the solutions. The Plone people are much more open to integrate third party solutions (a good thing in principle). But, they have only limited control over third party solu