Re: [Zope-CMF] SVN: CMF.buildout/trunk/src/ Don't use http:// externals for CMF externals.

2010-04-01 Thread yuppie
Hi!


Tres Seaver wrote:
 Log message for revision 110361:
Don't use http:// externals for CMF externals.

This buildout is for developers:  making them do the
dance is silly.

 Changed:
_U  CMF.buildout/trunk/src/

 -=-

 Property changes on: CMF.buildout/trunk/src
 ___
 Modified: svn:externals
 - Zope2 http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope/trunk
 Products.CMFCalendar http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFCalendar/trunk
 Products.CMFCore http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFCore/trunk
 Products.CMFDefault http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFDefault/trunk
 Products.CMFTopic http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFTopic/trunk
 Products.CMFUid http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFUid/trunk
 Products.DCWorkflow http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.DCWorkflow/trunk
 Products.GenericSetup 
 http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.GenericSetup/trunk
 five.localsitemanager 
 http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/five.localsitemanager/trunk

 + Zope2 http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope/trunk
 Products.CMFCalendar 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFCalendar/trunk
 Products.CMFCore svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFCore/trunk
 Products.CMFDefault 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFDefault/trunk
 Products.CMFTopic svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFTopic/trunk
 Products.CMFUid svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFUid/trunk
 Products.DCWorkflow 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.DCWorkflow/trunk
 Products.GenericSetup 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.GenericSetup/trunk
 five.localsitemanager 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/five.localsitemanager/trunk

I propose to use the new svn:externals format instead. That makes the 
discussion http:// vs. svn+ssh:// vs. svn:// obsolete because it allows 
to specify relative externals.

IIRC the general policy for the Zope repository is to switch to relative 
externals after the release of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, but I guess all people 
using CMF.buildout have already Subversion =1.5 available.


Cheers,

Yuppie
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Re: [Zope-CMF] SVN: CMF.buildout/trunk/src/ Don't use http:// externals for CMF externals.

2010-04-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On 4/1/10 12:10 , yuppie wrote:
 IIRC the general policy for the Zope repository is to switch to relative 
 externals after the release of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, but I guess all people 
 using CMF.buildout have already Subversion =1.5 available.

Huh? Since when do we make repository policy based on the release of a
particular Linux distribution? Where is this policy described? April
fools joke maybe?

jens

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Re: [Zope-CMF] SVN: CMF.buildout/trunk/src/ Don't use http:// externals for CMF externals.

2010-04-01 Thread yuppie
Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 On 4/1/10 12:10 , yuppie wrote:
 IIRC the general policy for the Zope repository is to switch to relative
 externals after the release of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, but I guess all people
 using CMF.buildout have already Subversion=1.5 available.

 Huh? Since when do we make repository policy based on the release of a
 particular Linux distribution? Where is this policy described? April
 fools joke maybe?

I might be wrong, but AFAIR this was the last discussion about it on 
Zope-dev and nobody objected to this mail:
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2009-September/037693.html

Cheers, Yuppie
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Re: [Zope-CMF] SVN: CMF.buildout/trunk/src/ Don't use http:// externals for CMF externals.

2010-04-01 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 01.04.2010, 12:28 Uhr, schrieb yuppie y.2...@wcm-solutions.de:

 I might be wrong, but AFAIR this was the last discussion about it on
 Zope-dev and nobody objected to this mail:
 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2009-September/037693.html

I think it would be a bit much to extrapolate a policy from that e-mail.  
Client libraries for developers shouldn't be restricted by the OS - we'd  
never get anywhere on OS X if that were the case.

Anyone on this list who wouldn't be happy with relative URLs for  
svn:externals?

Charlie
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Re: [Zope-CMF] SVN: CMF.buildout/trunk/src/ Don't use http:// externals for CMF externals.

2010-04-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On 4/1/10 12:28 , yuppie wrote:
 Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 On 4/1/10 12:10 , yuppie wrote:
 IIRC the general policy for the Zope repository is to switch to relative
 externals after the release of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, but I guess all people
 using CMF.buildout have already Subversion=1.5 available.
 Huh? Since when do we make repository policy based on the release of a
 particular Linux distribution? Where is this policy described? April
 fools joke maybe?
 
 I might be wrong, but AFAIR this was the last discussion about it on 
 Zope-dev and nobody objected to this mail:
 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2009-September/037693.html

Like Charlie says, you may be overinterpreting that email. There is no
such general policy for svn.zope.org.

Bringing up that question again certainly doesn't do any harm. I
personally have no objections to using relative SVN URLs.

jens

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Re: [Zope-CMF] SVN: CMF.buildout/trunk/src/ Don't use http:// externals for CMF externals.

2010-04-01 Thread yuppie
Hi!


Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 On 4/1/10 12:28 , yuppie wrote:
 Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 On 4/1/10 12:10 , yuppie wrote:
 IIRC the general policy for the Zope repository is to switch to relative
 externals after the release of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, but I guess all people
 using CMF.buildout have already Subversion=1.5 available.
 Huh? Since when do we make repository policy based on the release of a
 particular Linux distribution? Where is this policy described? April
 fools joke maybe?

 I might be wrong, but AFAIR this was the last discussion about it on
 Zope-dev and nobody objected to this mail:
 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2009-September/037693.html

 Like Charlie says, you may be overinterpreting that email. There is no
 such general policy for svn.zope.org.

Obviously general policy was the wrong term because both of you 
interpreted it not how I meant it. I agree this decision is not set in 
stone.

 Bringing up that question again certainly doesn't do any harm. I
 personally have no objections to using relative SVN URLs.

I don't plan to bring it up again on Zope-dev. I just proposed to make 
an exception for CMF.


Cheers,

Yuppie
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Re: [Zope-CMF] SVN: CMF.buildout/trunk/src/ Don't use http:// externals for CMF externals.

2010-04-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:24 PM, yuppie y.2...@wcm-solutions.de wrote:
 Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 Bringing up that question again certainly doesn't do any harm. I
 personally have no objections to using relative SVN URLs.

 I don't plan to bring it up again on Zope-dev. I just proposed to make
 an exception for CMF.

I'm on Subversion 1.6 anyways, so +1 for using the new format for the
CMF buildout.

Hanno
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Re: [Zope-CMF] SVN: CMF.buildout/trunk/src/ Don't use http:// externals for CMF externals.

2010-04-01 Thread Tres Seaver
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yuppie wrote:
 Hi!
 
 
 Tres Seaver wrote:
 Log message for revision 110361:
Don't use http:// externals for CMF externals.

This buildout is for developers:  making them do the
dance is silly.

 Changed:
_U  CMF.buildout/trunk/src/

 -=-

 Property changes on: CMF.buildout/trunk/src
 ___
 Modified: svn:externals
 - Zope2 http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope/trunk
 Products.CMFCalendar 
 http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFCalendar/trunk
 Products.CMFCore http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFCore/trunk
 Products.CMFDefault http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFDefault/trunk
 Products.CMFTopic http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFTopic/trunk
 Products.CMFUid http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFUid/trunk
 Products.DCWorkflow http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.DCWorkflow/trunk
 Products.GenericSetup 
 http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.GenericSetup/trunk
 five.localsitemanager 
 http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/five.localsitemanager/trunk

 + Zope2 http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope/trunk
 Products.CMFCalendar 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFCalendar/trunk
 Products.CMFCore svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFCore/trunk
 Products.CMFDefault 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFDefault/trunk
 Products.CMFTopic svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFTopic/trunk
 Products.CMFUid svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.CMFUid/trunk
 Products.DCWorkflow 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.DCWorkflow/trunk
 Products.GenericSetup 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.GenericSetup/trunk
 five.localsitemanager 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/five.localsitemanager/trunk
 
 I propose to use the new svn:externals format instead. That makes the 
 discussion http:// vs. svn+ssh:// vs. svn:// obsolete because it allows 
 to specify relative externals.
 
 IIRC the general policy for the Zope repository is to switch to relative 
 externals after the release of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, but I guess all people 
 using CMF.buildout have already Subversion =1.5 available.

I'm +0 on making this change:  I don't konw who will be using this
buildout via an anonymous HTTP URL, but if everybody working on CMF is
alraedy using SVN = 1.5, I can't see any harm in the relative externals.


Tres.
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Re: [Zope-CMF] SVN: CMF.buildout/trunk/src/ Don't use http:// externals for CMF externals.

2010-04-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
 I'm +0 on making this change:  I don't konw who will be using this
 buildout via an anonymous HTTP URL, but if everybody working on CMF is
 alraedy using SVN = 1.5, I can't see any harm in the relative externals.

I've gone ahead and made the change. One obvious user that doesn't
handle svn+ssh urls is the nightly buildbot. So using relative
externals seems to be the best option.

Hanno
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