[Zope-CMF] Re: How to customize forms and pages in the CMF for a CMS
Bradly Bernier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yah Plone seemed to be just as difficult as the CMF when I looked at it. Plone has way to many options that it scares me which I know would never work for my very computer illiterate clients. Well, Plone is built on top of the CMF so it has exactly all the complexity of CMF as well as some of its own, but it also wraps a lot of that complexity up in a UI that is easier to deal with, and it has a lot more documentation. Basically, Plone is a user-focused product, where as CMF is a framework, but as it turns out, Plone has done a lot of the hard things you probably want to do. I'm not quite sure what these options are that you are so scared of, but I'll note that you can quite easily turn off content types you don't want, disable workflow if you don't need it, and of course the settings in 'site setup' are only available to admin users by default. There are alternatives to Plone too, of course, notably CPS and Silva, that run on the same platform. Thanks a lot. I will look into the Plone Live's book. All I need is some great documentation and I will get it done. I guess after I become fluent with plone I will jump into learning Python/DTML/ZPT/Zope and all of the rest :) I'd skip DTML if I were you, but yeah - you'll probably want to learn eventually. If you're interested in learning more about Plone, I'd take a look at http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/read-documentation. Martin ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
[Zope-CMF] Re: How to customize forms and pages in the CMF for a CMS
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:37:24 -, Bradly Bernier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So there isnt a way of doing this just with the CMF? I have looked at plone and it doesn't seem to offer the exact requirments. All I want to make is a site where my clients can edit the body of 1 or 2 pages and then add periodic new content that only has a title, small body, and some pictures. I also am interested in learning more about zope and would like to know if would be hard for a noob like me to learn how to do this. It's quite often easier to turn things off in Plone than to re-invent them on top of plain CMF. What you're asking for is *exactly* what Plone does, and it'd be much easier for you to learn how to do so in a Plone context than in a pure CMF context, if only because there are books (Plone Live's a good one) and lots of documentation and tools like Archetypes and ArchGenXML. Plone isn't perfect, and probably has evolved too much framework for its own good (we're working on it :-) but it is much more rapid, you get a lot more usability and integration for free, and it's easier to learn than plain CMF. Martin -- (muted) ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
RE: [Zope-CMF] Re: How to customize forms and pages in the CMF for a CMS
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:37:24 -, Bradly Bernier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So there isnt a way of doing this just with the CMF? I have looked at plone and it doesn't seem to offer the exact requirments. All I want to make is a site where my clients can edit the body of 1 or 2 pages and then add periodic new content that only has a title, small body, and some pictures. I also am interested in learning more about zope and would like to know if would be hard for a noob like me to learn how to do this. It's quite often easier to turn things off in Plone than to re-invent them on top of plain CMF. What you're asking for is *exactly* what Plone does, and it'd be much easier for you to learn how to do so in a Plone context than in a pure CMF context, if only because there are books (Plone Live's a good one) and lots of documentation and tools like Archetypes and ArchGenXML. Plone isn't perfect, and probably has evolved too much framework for its own good (we're working on it :-) but it is much more rapid, you get a lot more usability and integration for free, and it's easier to learn than plain CMF. Martin Yah Plone seemed to be just as difficult as the CMF when I looked at it. Plone has way to many options that it scares me which I know would never work for my very computer illiterate clients. Thanks a lot. I will look into the Plone Live's book. All I need is some great documentation and I will get it done. I guess after I become fluent with plone I will jump into learning Python/DTML/ZPT/Zope and all of the rest :) Thanks everyone. ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: How to customize forms and pages in the CMF for a CMS
hi, Please use plone Archetypes and write a archetype product what are all you needs in the form after this write a view page for the end users presentation thats it . If you cannot do send me the requirement hope i will do it for you . Regards, Tanveer On 3/1/06, Bradly Bernier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:37:24 -, Bradly Bernier [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: So there isnt a way of doing this just with the CMF? I have looked at plone and it doesn't seem to offer the exact requirments. All I want to make is a site where my clients can edit the body of 1 or 2 pages and then add periodic new content that only has a title, small body, and some pictures. I also am interested in learning more about zope and would like to know if would be hard for a noob like me to learn how to do this.It's quite often easier to turn things off in Plone than to re-inventthemon top of plain CMF. What you're asking for is *exactly* what Plone does,and it'd be much easier for you to learn how to do so in a Plonecontextthan in a pure CMF context, if only because there are books (PloneLive'sa good one) and lots of documentation and tools like Archetypes and ArchGenXML. Plone isn't perfect, and probably has evolved too muchframework for its own good (we're working on it :-) but it is much morerapid, you get a lot more usability and integration for free, and it's easier to learn than plain CMF.MartinYah Plone seemed to be just as difficult as the CMF when I looked at it.Plone has way to many options that it scares me which I know would never work for my very computer illiterate clients. Thanks a lot. I will lookinto the Plone Live's book. All I need is some great documentation and Iwill get it done. I guess after I become fluent with plone I will jump into learning Python/DTML/ZPT/Zope and all of the rest :)Thanks everyone.___Zope-CMF maillist-Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmfSee http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests -- Syed Tanveer Ahmed Web Developer,100 feet Road,Indranagar ,bangalore .9886420354 ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests