Hi all,
I've now made available the first public release of pythonproducts.
pythonproducts
==
Description
A mechanism to construct Zope 2 products as regular python
packages. This enables a python package to be deployed as a
Zope 2 product using a similar strategy as Zope
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 09:58 +0100, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 12:11 -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
A while ago, we had some discussion on when to make releases and
how long to support deprecated features. The discussion has died down
so I'll summarize what I think the
I'd like to get feedback on two possible visions for the future of
Zope 2 and Zope 3.
1) Our current vision (AFAIK) is that Zope 3 will eventually
replace Zope 2
- There will be lots of overlap between the Zope 2 and Zope 3
lifetimes. (Zope 2 might be supported more or less
On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 10:37 -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
I'd like to get feedback on two possible visions for the future of
Zope 2 and Zope 3.
1) Our current vision (AFAIK) is that Zope 3 will eventually
replace Zope 2
- There will be lots of overlap between the Zope 2 and Zope 3
My 2 EuroCents:
Vision 1 is, I think what is happening at the moment for pragamatic and
practical reasons. Drawbacks of this is that we loose the ZopeX3
(Zope3X?) vision of cutting loose from old burdens and take off to new
horizons.
Vision 2, on the other hand (at least to me in my
OK, some initial, fuzzy comments:
On 2/27/06, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In this vision, Zope 3 would have to become a lot more like
Zope 2, or we would lose features.
You are thinking about things like TTW development and such? Because I
see that as add-on products of different
Max M said the following on 2006-02-27 17:26:
Jim Fulton wrote:
2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2 evolves to Zope 5.
Zope 2 is complicated! It has too many layers of everything.
read the full sentence that Jim wrote:
2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2 evolves to Zope 5.
...
Note
Max M wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2 evolves to Zope 5.
Zope 2 is complicated! It has too many layers of everything.
Layers are good, when they reliably hide complexity.
The reason for Zope 3 is to make it simpler for developers.
Yep. 14'30'' wikis and such.
Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote:
Max M said the following on 2006-02-27 17:26:
Jim Fulton wrote:
2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2 evolves to Zope 5.
Zope 2 is complicated! It has too many layers of everything.
read the full sentence that Jim wrote:
2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2
Jim Fulton wrote:
2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2 evolves to Zope 5.
+1 as already discussed at PyCON.
- Zope 5 will be the application server generally known as Zope. It
will be backward compatible (to the same degree that Zope 2
releases are currently backward compatible
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 12:31:33AM +0100, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
I will also note that just because Zope 2 won't die, it doesn't mean we
shouldn't clean it up. Eventually, Zope should mostly be reusing things
from Zed.
+sys.maxint
I think this will be the way we get a real forward
On Monday 27 February 2006 09:31, Jim Fulton wrote:
Thinking about this some more, I propose we should go for
June and November this year, to give Christian and others more
time and then do May and November from there on.
+1
This way the Easter sprint could contribute to the release.
On Monday 27 February 2006 10:37, Jim Fulton wrote:
1) Our current vision (AFAIK) is that Zope 3 will eventually
replace Zope 2
2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2 evolves to Zope 5.
As you probably know already, I am -1 on the second proposal, since it will
disallow us to finally get rid
On Monday 27 February 2006 11:06, Lennart Regebro wrote:
I like the vision of Zope2 becoming a set of extra packages you
install for Zope3, to get backwards compatibility. Maybe this is the
same as what you call Zope 5, maybe not.
That would sound good to me!!!
Regards,
Stephan
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Stephan
On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:37 AM, Jim Fulton wrote:
2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2 evolves to Zope 5.
Of the two, this seems more believable. It also may be the best we
can do. However, I still don't like it. :-)
- Zope 5 will be the application server generally known as
Zope. It
Jürgen Herrmann wrote:
On Thu, February 23, 2006 09:02, Chris Withers wrote:
1. why the 3 posts?
sorry, there was a long delay before my messages appeared, so i thought
i had problems with my subscription. sorry for the triple post!
Good grief, please check the archives to see where your
Sidnei da Silva wrote:
Basically you need (a properly licensed) VC 7, and Python 2.4.2
installed. Not much else has changed. Unfortunately we haven't gotten
around setting up VC 7 here.
Okay, once I have those two, then what do I do to end up with a binary
distro for Zope 2.9.1?
cheers,
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