Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions?

2006-03-03 Thread Max M
Geoff Davis wrote: No, I think I understood you. I was being sloppy in my use of language. I should have said something more like Zope 3 then becomes an application server built around the Zed library. Or Zed is the part of Zope that can be used without Zope. -- hilsen/regards Max M,

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions

2006-03-03 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] Sounds like the original vision of Zope 3 without the X. I thought we never got around to developing this stuff the last time. Actually, no. We originally said that we would provide a transition path. I said over and over that this was *not*

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions

2006-03-03 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: [snip] I think that having one name for two radically different, though related, things is very confusing. There are really 2 main technologies that people care about: 1. The Zope app server. This is characterized by things like an object file system, through-the-web

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-03-03 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:08 AM, Max M wrote: Splitting up Zope to let people use seperate pieces of Zope aka Zed is not a valid reason. Good software practise is a valid reason. But catering for those few developers that wants to use just a few pieces is probably not worth the effort. Here's

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-03-03 Thread Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra
[ Philipp von Weitershausen ]: It's not about sacrificing the Zope-the-app-server brand. It's actually about growing it in the sense that it becomes much clearer WHAT THE HELL Zope actually is. Or can you explain what Zope is in one sentence? But it all comes down to the depths (or

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

2006-03-03 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: I think one needs to be Manager to upload content to the Products area on zope.org. I would give the new window maintainer a local Manager role in this case...so who is willing to care about the future Windows build? I would like to see a longer commitment for this job.

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

2006-03-03 Thread Chris Withers
Sidnei da Silva wrote: | OK, are either you (or anyone else at Enfold) or Tim going to roll the | 2.9.1 binary or would you like me to pick it up from now on? Can't promise anything about 2.9.1. It might happen later on though. I'm happy to pick this up, just gimme the nod! Chris --

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

2006-03-03 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 05:34:49PM +, Chris Withers wrote: | Sidnei da Silva wrote: | | OK, are either you (or anyone else at Enfold) or Tim going to roll the | | 2.9.1 binary or would you like me to pick it up from now on? | | Can't promise anything about 2.9.1. It might happen later on

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2006-03-03 Thread Beau Gould
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

2006-03-03 Thread Chris Withers
Cool, I'll try and get the builds done on Monday, will report back with any problems... How should I run all the Zope tests once I have a candidate build? cheers, Chris Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 05:34:49PM +, Chris Withers wrote: | Sidnei da Silva wrote: | | OK, are

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

2006-03-03 Thread Tim Peters
[Chris Withers] ... How should I run all the Zope tests once I have a candidate build? Section Testing Zope in http://svn.zope.org/Zope/trunk/inst/WinBuilders/README.txt ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

[Zope-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-03-03 Thread Max M
Stefane Fermigier wrote: Strange how (most of) the Plone people seem to be so quick in willing to sacrifice the Zope brand :( In out world Zope doesn't have a brand. Plone has a it. Most of our customers doesn't have a clue as to what Zope is. As far as I can tell, Zope is a developers

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Two visions?

2006-03-03 Thread Max M
Benji York wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Good point. There's the question: Does this zed thing need a different name at all? If we want other people to pick it up, then it seems like a good idea to distinguish it from Zope-the-app-server. Paul seems to suggest that in his response.