[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 7 OK

2007-01-28 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Sat Jan 27 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Sun Jan 28 12:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 7 messages: 7 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.6 Python-2.1.3 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sat Jan 27 21:04:47 EST 2007

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Ian Bicking
Martin Aspeli wrote: Eggs exist to pkg_resources (the runtime portion of setuptools) simply by being available on a path. E.g., if you have lib/python/ on the path, and lib/python/Foo-1.0.egg/ exists, then if you do pkg_resources.require('Foo') that will add lib/python/Foo-1.0.egg/ to the

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Martin Aspeli wrote: This thread is getting rather long... :) But except for the interaction of workingenv and buildout, which I'm not smart enough to say anything useful about, we are almost finished ;) - There is a 2.5 branch of ploneout (http://svn.plone.org/svn/ploneout/branches/2.5)

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Ian Bicking
Martin Aspeli wrote: whit wrote: actually, in my current workplace, workingenv is the standard way to set up one's dev environment. but in the context of the previous statement, familar is perhaps a better word. I'm still not clear how widely used workingenv is? Is it officially endorsed

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Ian Bicking wrote: ... I would assume that buildout is specifically disabling easy_install's updating of easy-install.pth WRT egg installation, buildout follows easy_install's multi-version model. It installs eggs in such a way that multiple versions can be installed at the same time. As

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Martin Aspeli
Jim Fulton wrote: The first step to compatibility is deciding what it means. :) I'm all in favor of workingenv/buildout compatibility. I'd like to see some specifics of how people would like to use workingenv amd buildout together. I have some guesses, but I'd rather hear people say what they

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Jim Fulton
whit wrote: ... Specific use cases would help to guide this. the main usecase for me is the following... hanno writes a recipe for plone, and I want to use that recipe as part of setting up a openplans development environment (for example inside my workingenv that I've been developing w/out

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Jim Fulton
whit wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: ... zc.buildout is in no way zope specific. Can a Zope developer not develop a tool without it being stamped as zope specific? maybe... maybe not. When a developer struggles with more than one tool from the same general source, it matters little to them whether

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Ian Bicking wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: ... If lib/python/Foo-1.0.egg/ is on the path to start with you can import from it directly. This is what zc.reipe.egg does I believe. It activates (i.e., adds eggs to the path) in the scripts. I think setuptools' egg activation will be

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Ian Bicking wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: whit wrote: actually, in my current workplace, workingenv is the standard way to set up one's dev environment. but in the context of the previous statement, familar is perhaps a better word. I'm still not clear how widely used workingenv is? Is it

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Martin Aspeli wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: The first step to compatibility is deciding what it means. :) I'm all in favor of workingenv/buildout compatibility. I'd like to see some specifics of how people would like to use workingenv amd buildout together. I have some guesses, but I'd rather hear

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Martin Aspeli
Jim Fulton wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: The first step to compatibility is deciding what it means. :) I'm all in favor of workingenv/buildout compatibility. I'd like to see some specifics of how people would like to use workingenv amd buildout together. I have some guesses,

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Jean-Paul Ladage
- ploneout (http://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/ploneout/trunk) is really an environment that Plone 3 core developers could (should?) use as a consistent way of setting up a Zope 2.10 instance with Plone 3 and all dependencies. It uses svn:externals quite extensively to pull in Plone's source

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Martin Aspeli wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: The first step to compatibility is deciding what it means. :) I'm all in favor of workingenv/buildout compatibility. I'd like to see some specifics of how people would like to use workingenv amd buildout together.

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-28 Thread Martin Aspeli
Jim Fulton wrote: [foo] recipe=zc.recipe.egg eggs = egg1 egg2 ... interpreter = mypy extra-paths = path-to-your-instance/lib/python scripts = mypy This is great :) I used eggs = ${instance:eggs} to make sure it has the same eggs as our Zope instance, seems to

[Zope-dev] Re: RFC: Acquisition and __parent__ pointers

2007-01-28 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi, I had a few minutes to spare and took a quick look at the implementation. Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: As for the implementation, I gave it my best shot in the philikon-aq-and-__parent__ branch. My experience with C is limited, especially when it comes to debugging. Help is therefore