[Zope-dev] Ответ: Can somebody upload a zope.app.zcmlfiles 3.5.3 release?

2009-02-06 Thread Dan Korostelev
Oh cool! I didn't know :) Thank you. 2009/2/6, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu: On Thursday 05 February 2009, Dan Korostelev wrote: BTW, it would be great to have that script published so any developer could use it to set roles for new packages. Stephan? :) zope.pypisupport

[Zope-dev] Important release migration information

2009-02-06 Thread Dan Korostelev
I just committed a new section to zope3docs about migration to newer Zope 3 releases. I think we should maintain a list of most important changes that could break backward-compatibility, like recent changing exception types used in zope.container in a separate document, so people who are

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.app.component/trunk/ Please, don't just remove things that could be used in users code.

2009-02-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] For ZODB objects I think its okay for now not to use deprecations and to use the upgrade tool, but for the imports of other things that were moved elsewhere, I still think we need to bug developers that

Re: [Zope-dev] Important release migration information

2009-02-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Dan Korostelev wrote: I just committed a new section to zope3docs about migration to newer Zope 3 releases. I think we should maintain a list of most important changes that could break backward-compatibility, like recent changing exception types used in zope.container in a separate

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.security changes

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2009-1-30 18:50 +: Brian Sutherland wrote: zope.configuration.x zope.configuration.y Please don't, having namespace packages that contain files (as zope.configuration already does) breaks setuptools. Then setuptools needs fixing. But not

[Zope-dev] multiple packages in the same namespace

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: zope.configuration isn't a namespace package. It is simply a package with subpackages. Does setuptools support something like: packagea: packagea/__init__.py packagea/amodule.py packagea.something: packagea/__init__.py packagea/something/__init__.py

Re: [Zope-dev] Lower default socket timeout for buildout?

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: At least I added a patch to buildout at some time ago in order to make the default timeout configurable through a command-line option (or was it a buildout options - I can't remember). Would be good to know where this lives and/or how Christian was limiting the timeout for

Re: [Zope-dev] Lower default socket timeout for buildout?

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Withers
Christian Theune wrote: It's only a command line option right now. Which one? Making it configurable through a buildout option would be nice too. Yes, so it can live in default.cfg! Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting -

Re: [Zope-dev] Plans for Zope 2.12

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Withers
Lennart Regebro wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:38, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: Note that Jim never explained to me how he does these audits, but I gathered some methods he used in conversations. I think I did a pretty thorough job during the review. Yeah, this disturbs me a

Re: [Zope-dev] Important release migration information

2009-02-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey Dan and everybody, I've taken the document Dan started and have reorganized it a bit and added bits I know of what happened at the sprint last week. I've also introduced an 'introduction' section which discusses the aim of many of the changes made and the general response a developer

Re: [Zope-dev] Lower default socket timeout for buildout?

2009-02-06 Thread Christian Theune
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:42:37 + Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: Christian Theune wrote: It's only a command line option right now. Which one? -t Making it configurable through a buildout option would be nice too. Yes, so it can live in default.cfg! Exactly. --

Re: [Zope-dev] multiple packages in the same namespace

2009-02-06 Thread Christian Theune
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:35:09 + Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: zope.configuration isn't a namespace package. It is simply a package with subpackages. Does setuptools support something like: packagea: packagea/__init__.py packagea/amodule.py

[Zope-dev] Tests results for Zope 3.5dev KGS

2009-02-06 Thread Stephan Richter
Hi all, I just ran all tests over night and here is the result Tests with errors: runTest (zope.testing.testrunner.runner.SetUpLayerFailure) runTest (zope.testing.testrunner.runner.SetUpLayerFailure) runTest (zope.testing.testrunner.runner.SetUpLayerFailure) runTest

Re: [Zope-dev] Plans for Zope 2.12

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Withers
Tres Seaver wrote: Ugh. -1 to any attempt to use space suits in Z2. I would rather move to a model which made it easy to mark some / all TTW objects as trusted, disabling security checks altogether: the untrusted users can edit TTW code use case is pretty much irrelevant for any site I

Re: [Zope-dev] Can somebody upload a zope.app.zcmlfiles 3.5.3 release?

2009-02-06 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 06 February 2009, Martijn Faassen wrote: True, but one never knows (perhaps some modification to setup.py, say), and I think we should have a general rule any PyPI package that's part of the Zope 3 framework (handwave that here for now) should be owned by a group of people. Yep,

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.app.component/trunk/ Please, don't just remove things that could be used in users code.

2009-02-06 Thread Dan Korostelev
+- Make ``class`` directive schemas importable from old location, + raising a deprecation warning. It was moved in the previous release, + but some custom directives could possibly use its schemas. Out of curiosity, *was* it used by custom directives that you know of? Well, I personally

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.app.component/trunk/ Please, don't just remove things that could be used in users code.

2009-02-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Okay, reuse of directive definitions and implementations is more widespread than I thought initially. Which is silly of me, as Grok itself also reuses directive actions (but not definitions) in some places. But

Re: [Zope-dev] Can somebody upload a zope.app.zcmlfiles 3.5.3 release?

2009-02-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: Fred Drake wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: I'm fixing dependent packages broken by my changes:

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 6 OK, 4 Failed

2009-02-06 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Feb 5 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Fri Feb 6 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 10 messages: 10 from Zope Tests. Test failures - Subject: FAILED (failures=6) : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Feb 5 21:10:39 EST

Re: [Zope-dev] Important release migration information

2009-02-06 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/2/6 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com: Hey Dan and everybody, I've taken the document Dan started and have reorganized it a bit and added bits I know of what happened at the sprint last week. I've also introduced an 'introduction' section which discusses the aim of many of the

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.app.component/trunk/ Please, don't just remove things that could be used in users code.

2009-02-06 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/2/6 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com: Yep. Also, as I said before I think we also need to use deprecation warnings for imports that are not classes for persistent objects (until Chiristian writes the tool to upgrade them :)). As far as I understand in a recent discussion people

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.app.component/trunk/ Please, don't just remove things that could be used in users code.

2009-02-06 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Korostelev wrote: 2009/2/6 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com: Yep. Also, as I said before I think we also need to use deprecation warnings for imports that are not classes for persistent objects (until Chiristian writes the tool to

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.app.component/trunk/ Please, don't just remove things that could be used in users code.

2009-02-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: [snip] Martijn hoped for a tool which would help developers find places in their code which used the BBB locations, in order to help them modernize. And to repeat, this tool was mostly created last week in the

Re: [Zope-dev] multiple packages in the same namespace

2009-02-06 Thread Jim Fulton
On Feb 6, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Chris Withers wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: zope.configuration isn't a namespace package. It is simply a package with subpackages. Does setuptools support something like: packagea: packagea/__init__.py packagea/amodule.py packagea.something:

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.security changes

2009-02-06 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2009-2-6 12:31 +: ... I would find is very unintuitive when configuration were centralized (in subpackages of zope.configuration) rather than modular. Configuration belongs to the application or framework component that depends on this configuration not to

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.app.component/trunk/ Please, don't just remove things that could be used in users code.

2009-02-06 Thread Dieter Maurer
Dan Korostelev wrote at 2009-2-6 14:10 +0300: ... I still think we need to bug developers that they need to upgrade their code with deprecation warnings, so we can eventually remove old imports. When you abuse deprecation warnings for minor cosmetic issues you risk that deprecation warnings are