[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: A KGS needs to have the following properties: - The generation zero of any KGS is an empty set of revisions. - By default, any revision N of a KGS starts out as a draft version which is an empty layer over version N-1. Changes to the draft then shadow any versions

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Nov 10, 2007 10:02 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sympathize with this thinking, but as far as I understood Jim and Stephan last night, there seems to be the goal to make a KGS for a whole stable release branch, e.g. Zope3.4, and keep on adding bugfix releases.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 09 November 2007, Martijn Faassen wrote: Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Tres Whoever released those two eggs (the '.dev-r#' ones) need to release real updated packages, and then grok 0.11.1 should be released using them. DEATH TO FAUX PACKAGES! As far as I understand,

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Nov 10, 2007 12:52 PM, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I personally do not think that this is a good idea, I am open to the suggestion to fix the KGS versions for a particular Zope 3.4 release. For example, instead of having just a versions.cfg, we can expand the scripts to

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 10 November 2007, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Nov 10, 2007 12:52 PM, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I personally do not think that this is a good idea, I am open to the suggestion to fix the KGS versions for a particular Zope 3.4 release. For example, instead of

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Nov 10, 2007 1:06 PM, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, I am already correctly branching the zope.release package. It contains the controlled-packages.cfg. Using the scripts in zope.release, it is trivial to render versions.cfg; I mean as in: ./bin/generate-versions I have

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: A KGS needs to have the following properties: - The generation zero of any KGS is an empty set of revisions. - By default, any revision N of a KGS starts out as a draft version which is

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 09 November 2007, Tres Seaver wrote: A KGS needs to have the following properties: - The generation zero of any KGS is an empty set of revisions. Yes, luckily we are far beyond that point. - By default, any revision N of a KGS starts out as a draft version which is an empty

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 10 Nov 2007, at 14:06 , Tres Seaver wrote: If we have software which can generate the pacakge index at a URL for a KGS, then it could certainly generate a 'version.cfg' as well, to support buildout. We already do. Stephan's zope.release does that already. The file is actually available

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007, Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Tres Whoever released those two eggs (the '.dev-r#' ones) need to release real updated packages, and then grok 0.11.1 should be released using them. DEATH TO FAUX PACKAGES! As far as I understand, this does not

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 09 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: It can't because you guys broke a dozen packages when you split up some of the zope.app.* packages. I'm going to fix this now. Can we stop pointing fingers, please? I just spent 3-4 man-weeks to get the packages to a decent state,

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: It can't because you guys broke a dozen packages when you split up some of the zope.app.* packages. I'm going to fix this now. Can we stop pointing fingers, please? Sorry for not sugar coating the facts. I

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Martijn Faassen
Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Tres Whoever released those two eggs (the '.dev-r#' ones) need to release real updated packages, and then grok 0.11.1 should be released using them. DEATH TO FAUX PACKAGES! As far as I understand, this does not happen if you depend on a KGS, right? Does the

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Martijn Faassen
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: [snip] So you're telling me that in order to define my own KGS (which anybody should do for a serious project), I'll have to start deploying my own index. For each project? I think Grok should be using KGS by simply taking snapshots of it sometimes and then

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Tres Whoever released those two eggs (the '.dev-r#' ones) need to release real updated packages, and then grok 0.11.1 should be released using them. DEATH TO FAUX PACKAGES! As far as I