Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-16 Thread Chris Withers
Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2007, Chris Withers wrote: Have all the things that have lead to buildout/kgs/etc been brought to the attention of the distutils sig? This *must* be a problem that all decent sized python frameworks are facing. We are still experimenting. I think

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-15 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2007-11-14 09:14 +: Tres Seaver wrote: I've never known of transactions in anything to do with setuptools... I wasn't literally referring to a transaction, in the ZODB sense -- I meant, install using a separate run of easy_install'. Unless I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-15 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 15 November 2007, Chris Withers wrote: Have all the things that have lead to buildout/kgs/etc been brought to the attention of the distutils sig? This *must* be a problem that all decent sized python frameworks are facing. We are still experimenting. I think once we tried our

[Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-14 Thread Chris Withers
Tres Seaver wrote: I've never known of transactions in anything to do with setuptools... I wasn't literally referring to a transaction, in the ZODB sense -- I meant, install using a separate run of easy_install'. Unless I'm missing something, that seems... sub-optimal. So I have to do

[Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-14 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: I've never known of transactions in anything to do with setuptools... I wasn't literally referring to a transaction, in the ZODB sense -- I meant, install using a separate run of easy_install'. Unless I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-14 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2007-11-14 09:14 +: Tres Seaver wrote: I've never known of transactions in anything to do with setuptools... I wasn't literally referring to a transaction, in the ZODB sense -- I meant, install using a separate run of easy_install'. Unless I'm missing something,

[Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-13 Thread Chris Withers
Tres Seaver wrote: If I specify index as above, how do I get other packages which may not appear in that index? You install them in a separate transaction: the 'index_url' setting in a pacakge setup.py only governs where setuptools goes to find packages which are dependencies of that package.

[Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-13 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: If I specify index as above, how do I get other packages which may not appear in that index? You install them in a separate transaction: the 'index_url' setting in a pacakge setup.py only governs where

[Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-12 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: The easiest way to do this is to add the following line to the buildout section of the package's `buildout.cfg` file: index = http://download.zope.org/zope3.4 (I know you know that Jim; it is for the