Re: [Zope-dev] restrictedTraverse

2002-05-16 Thread Stuart Bishop
On Sunday, May 12, 2002, at 01:27 AM, Florent Guillaume wrote: With an object path /A/B/C where C has a local role allowing a user to view C but where B disallows acquisition of the View permission, the publisher correctly allows the user to see C. However restrictedTraverse('/A/B/C')

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-16 Thread Adrian Hungate
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the TTW part is what is one of the strenghts of Zope - Well, no, not really. Being able to edit stuff remotely is where Zope's real strength lies. WebDAV and FTP are much better than using sucky HTTP forms to do this ;-) Babies. bathwater.

Re: [Zope-dev] stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-16 Thread Don Hopkins
From: Steve Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] stacks != easy to explain If you're using ordered attributes, then you're not using XML. Indeed, and if your indentation is meaningful in your C source-code, you're not using C. However, that doesn't negate the benefit of a

Re: [Zope-dev] stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-16 Thread Chris Withers
Don Hopkins wrote: Indentation style and the definition of XML are two different things. The XML spec clearly states that attributes are defined as unordered. So any XML editors or tool might rightfully reorder those attributes, thus mangling the meaning of any so-called XML code that

Re: [Zope-dev] stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-16 Thread Eron Lloyd
I believe what is trying to be explained is that ZPT provides a certain sequence for attribute *processing*, which begins *after* the template is parsed (like unordered keyword arguments in Python). How they are ordered in the source file is irrelevant, but by ordering them in the precise way

Re: [Zope-dev] stacks != easy to explain

2002-05-16 Thread Nicola Larosa
[Lots of Cc: deleted] My turn... So any XML editors or tool might rightfully reorder those attributes, thus mangling the meaning of any so-called XML code that depends on attribute order. The so-called XML code does *not* depend on attribute order. Any so-called XML tool that depends

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: References to hypertext templating languages

2002-05-16 Thread Nicola Larosa
[Lots of Cc: deleted...] snipHello?! How much stuff... sorry, I didn't even read it/snip You should have, it's interesting stuff, better not dismissing it so lightly. -- Two witches watch two watches. Which witch watched which watch? Nicola Larosa - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Zope-dev] References to hypertext templating languages

2002-05-16 Thread Ken Manheimer
Don, it sounds like HyperTIES Markup Language addresses some similar purposes in similar ways to Zope Page Templates. There are also some significant differences, which may interest you. ZPT has some distinctive features particularly aimed to promote ease of collaboration between web designers