Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?
Jeffrey P Shell wrote: But release often is a BITCH for software configuration management. Good for developers, bad for deployers. Why? Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] My 2.6.0 feature patch didn't make it!?
Brad Clements wrote: But the passive port range patch didn't make it into 2.6 Do you have CVS access? No. I emailed both sets of patches to .. Brian (?) at the same time. Suggest you apply for it. DIY is the best way of making sure stuff gets in :-) cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:32:59 -0700 Jeffrey P Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 04:22 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > > > Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: > >> It what world do you live, and can I move there? > > > > You miss the point ;-) > > > > The flurry to get features into a 'stable' release is what I was on > > about. > > If you flurry, the release won't be stable. > > > > I like the pattern of having stable releases and CVS or nightly builds > > for people who want the latest and greatest. That way everyone gets to > > contribute easily and freely and yet we still get truly stable > > versions. > > > > Maybe not to the extent of having seperate 'dev' and 'stable' streams > > a la Linux, but that's a good feeling in essence. > > > > Still, the overarching thing is release early and often. The fewer > > features in each release, the fewer problems of "I need this feature, > > but that means I also have to accept this one that I don't trust" > > But release often is a BITCH for software configuration management. > Good for developers, bad for deployers. Hence the nightly build. Just for developers or early adopters. Not for deployers. -Casey ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Web Services for Zope; what happened?
Brian, I have been an active user of Zope for nearly two years. My current position affords me the opportunity to finally give something back to the community. I work for NOAA and Web Services will be a critical piece of our web architecture strategy this coming year. Our branch is located in southwestern Mississippi, so we are in the building phase (wrt python/zope expertise - no Zope developers down here except me and impossible to get anyone who has the experience to seriously consider relocating here ... Ha! ). What I am able to offer is 1-2 fulltime software engineers for as long as it takes to do this right. I have read your proposal (just after you released it last year) and thought it very well done. I like the implementation you describe and agree with your proposal 100%. The time frame that I am talking about (fulltime developer support) is beginning in January. If it is possible to get some preliminary stuff out of the way before hand, that would be great. If it would require some face time with you, that would be possible as well. Let me know if this is an agreeable arrangement and your thoughts on how we proceed from here. Any responses should be directed to my work email which is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks in advance... Eric > I've had a number of people inquire about the status of the package, > but so far no one willing to volunteer to move things forward. If > you (or anyone else) is interested, I'd be happy to provide any > guidance I can. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Web Services for Zope; what happened?
I got a hacked together version of WebServices sort of working at ActiveState at the around the same time Brian was working on that code. I think its still working, but its no where near complete: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Syndication. Unfortunately you'd have to smile sweetly at ActiveState to get the code from them, if a quick toy, hacky implementation is all you need that might be the way. I'd really like to look at WebServices for Zope 3, perhaps it is one area I can help. Part of the problem I think was that Web Services did not slot into Zope 2 nicely especially with the automagical nature of things like XMLRPC. The Zope3 View architecture seems to be the way to go and provide a good opportunity for this. > There is not currently (or at least there wasn't > last I checked) a drop-in library for this that exposed what I > felt would be needed, and I definitely don't have the time to > implement one :) I haven't looked at ZSI for a while but as I think that was the most promising package at the time. But I'm not promising or commiting to anything because if I do it's doomed not to happen. -- Andy McKay www.agmweb.ca ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Web Services for Zope; what happened?
> What I am able to offer is 1-2 fulltime software engineers for as long as it > takes to do this right. I have read your proposal (just after you released > it last year) and thought it very well done. I like the implementation you > describe and agree with your proposal 100%. The time frame that I am talking > about (fulltime developer support) is beginning in January. If it is > possible to get some preliminary stuff out of the way before hand, that > would be great. If it would require some face time with you, that would be > possible as well. If its in Jan. would looking at Zope 3 be a better idea? -- Andy McKay www.agmweb.ca ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Web Services for Zope; what happened?
Andy, I wondered about that. I have been following some of the dialog on the Zope 3 dev list but it is unclear to me its status. We (my office) would like to have the Web Services capability by July/August time frame (earlier if possible), so don't know if that falls in line with a stable Zope 3. Your thoughts... Eric > > If its in Jan. would looking at Zope 3 be a better idea? > -- > Andy McKay > www.agmweb.ca ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )