Re: [Zope-dev] (no subject)

[Casey Duncan]

There are some existing products that might interest you. One is 
DocumentLibrary, a DMS system I wrote a while ago. Although it is not really 
maintained anymore, it could at least give you something to start from.

The other is ZopeVersionControl (available from cvs.zope.org), which is a 
product for performing application level (rather than database as Zope does 
out of the box) version control of Zope objects. To see how it is used you 
might also take a look at CMFStaging (also at cvs.zope.org).

Zope Corporation's Turbo Intranet might also interest you. It will give you a 
DMS w/version control and training on how to customize and extend it: 
http://www.zope.com/Training/Training/Training/TurboIntranetTraining

hth,

-Casey


On Saturday 08 February 2003 05:16 am, Anitha George wrote:
> Hi all
>I am trying to develop a Document Management System in zope.The 
> features that have to be implemented managing folders,maintaining versions 
> of an object,uploading a file,etc.I believe Zope supports all these 
> features. I am planning to build an interface above the Zope ZMI and use 
> these features. For this I have to understand which are the library files 
> which carry out this function of managing folders and maintaining versions. 
> Could any of you please help me out in understanding the Zope API i.e which 
> are the libraries and files used for the above mentioned features so that I 
> can implement it in my appication. Please help me out.I would be really 
> grateful.Thanks in advance.Awaiting a quick response.
> 
> Regards,
> Anitha


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Re: [Zope-dev] (no subject)

[Dario Lopez-Kästen]

Hi,

First of all, I suggest that you start by looking into the following
Ready-To-Use Zope Apps:

CPS (www.cps-project.org), (www.plone.org), Silva
(http://www.infrae.com/products/silva)

These are systems that may allready have what you are looking for in terms
of functionality. If they serve your purpose, all you have to do is adapt
their look and feel to suit your needs. There are other's as well, IIRC -
perhps others can suggest them.

I any event, if you want to build your own, or want to learn enough to do
more than visual tweaking of the above, you would start by looking into the
Zope Book (if you haven't allready)
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/ and then the Zope
Developer's Guide, http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/.

More docs can be found at http://www.zope.org/Documentation

And - you probably will have to read the source for Zope if you want to
understand how things really work.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

/dario


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>
> Hi all
>I am trying to develop a Document Management System in zope.The
> features that have to be implemented managing folders,maintaining versions
> of an object,uploading a file,etc.I believe Zope supports all these
> features. I am planning to build an interface above the Zope ZMI and use
> these features. For this I have to understand which are the library files
> which carry out this function of managing folders and maintaining
versions.
> Could any of you please help me out in understanding the Zope API i.e
which
> are the libraries and files used for the above mentioned features so that
I
> can implement it in my appication. Please help me out.I would be really
> grateful.Thanks in advance.Awaiting a quick response.
>
> Regards,
> Anitha
>


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Server Control

[Shane Hathaway]

On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Andy McKay wrote:

> > It's not fancy, but it's complete: you can watch and control multiple
> > servers from a single place.  The flashing yellow LED-like indicators
> > would give you a great deal of confidence that information is flowing.  
> > It sure would be appealing.  Anyone want to take this on? :-)
> 
> Yes :)
> 
> 1. There are already a few like this around, the ZopeController from 
> Richard Jones which Plone uses an modified version of... there is one 
> for another product as well although the name escapes me.
> 
> 2. We (as in Plone team) have for 1.1 a main requirement to move to a x 
> platform controller that can do that and much more. wxController as it 
> has been dubbed hasn't been started yet but Im tasked with writing the 
> PLIP now 1.0 has been done.
> 
> 3. I've found at least two companies that run many, many zope servers on 
> remote boxes all over the place and would like one ui to see the status 
> of them all, I'm trying to see if i can get some $ out of them for the 
> development :)
> 
> So is there a public cvs for your code can we mangle all our stuff together?

You misunderstand: I have zero code. :-)  The screenshot (especially the
second one) shows precisely what I'm looking for in a Zope controller.  
It should scale up to dozens of Zopes and ZEOs while remaining useful for
single Zope instances, it should display rapidly flashing lights to
indicate exactly how resources are being spent, and it should display a
Zope logo so it doubles as a marketing tool.  Consider the screenshot a
request.

I can post the QT .ui file, though, if that would help. ;-)

Shane

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Re: [Zope-dev] Does zope still need a python compiled with "--without-pymalloc" ?

[Dario Lopez-Kästen]

Great, thanks to both of Dieter and Anthony!

Sincerely,

/dario

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> 
> >>> Dieter Maurer wrote
> > I am almost sure, you no longer need it.
> > At least, we use Python 2.1.3 compiled without this option
> > and do not see problems (attributable "malloc").
> 
> The (known) bugs that pymalloc (and cycle-gc) triggered are
> fixed in 2.1.3.
> 
> Anthony


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Server Control

[Andy McKay]

It's not fancy, but it's complete: you can watch and control multiple
servers from a single place.  The flashing yellow LED-like indicators
would give you a great deal of confidence that information is flowing.  
It sure would be appealing.  Anyone want to take this on? :-)

Yes :)

1. There are already a few like this around, the ZopeController from 
Richard Jones which Plone uses an modified version of... there is one 
for another product as well although the name escapes me.

2. We (as in Plone team) have for 1.1 a main requirement to move to a x 
platform controller that can do that and much more. wxController as it 
has been dubbed hasn't been started yet but Im tasked with writing the 
PLIP now 1.0 has been done.

3. I've found at least two companies that run many, many zope servers on 
remote boxes all over the place and would like one ui to see the status 
of them all, I'm trying to see if i can get some $ out of them for the 
development :)

So is there a public cvs for your code can we mangle all our stuff together?
--
  Andy McKay


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Zope as Document Management System (was: [Zope-dev] (no subject))

[Dieter Maurer]

Please use (good) subjects...

Anitha George wrote at 2003-2-8 10:16 +:
 >I am trying to develop a Document Management System in zope.The 
 > features that have to be implemented managing folders,maintaining versions 
 > of an object,uploading a file,etc.I believe Zope supports all these 
 > features.

It does but Zope provides less control over versions than you
would like for a document management system:

  You can not selectively control the versions of a document.
  You can only discard all (not current) versions older than
  a given time.

 > I am planning to build an interface above the Zope ZMI and use 
 > these features. For this I have to understand which are the library files 
 > which carry out this function of managing folders and maintaining versions. 

I suggest, you install my "DocFinder" product and look what
methods are provided by the relevant objects.

It also tells you about the class and its module (what you are calling
"library file") for the objects.


  


 > Could any of you please help me out in understanding the Zope API i.e which 
 > are the libraries and files used for the above mentioned features so that I 
 > can implement it in my appication. Please help me out.I would be really 
 > grateful.Thanks in advance.Awaiting a quick response.

:-))


Dieter

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL/ZODB corruption after upgrade

[Dieter Maurer]

Dan L. Pierson wrote at 2003-2-7 13:03 -0500:
 > ...
 > If I open a ZSQL method (any ZSQL method, new or old, inside the
 > area that used to be controlled by LoginManager or not) it seems
 > OK.  Using the method works.  But if I click on the Advanced tab
 > in the ZMI, I get the following:
 > ...
 > (Object: manage_advancedForm)
 >   File /var/local/control/V4/site/zope/lib/python/Shared/DC/ZRDB/DA.py, line 548, in 
 >manage_product_zclass_info

One of your ZClasses is broken...

Catch the exception in line 548 of "Shared/DC/ZRDB/DA.py"
and find out which one. Do something about it...


Dieter

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Re: [Zope-dev] Does zope still need a python compiled with "--without-pymalloc" ?

[Anthony Baxter]

>>> Dieter Maurer wrote
> I am almost sure, you no longer need it.
> At least, we use Python 2.1.3 compiled without this option
> and do not see problems (attributable "malloc").

The (known) bugs that pymalloc (and cycle-gc) triggered are
fixed in 2.1.3.

Anthony

-- 
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It's never too late to have a happy childhood.


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Re: [Zope-dev] What makes Zope twirl?

[Dieter Maurer]

Gilles wrote at 2003-2-7 10:43 -0600:
 > - log show nothing in case of blocking: log is written when the request is
 > completed, and the log is not flushed at every request. I don't thing Big-M
 > will help.
You look at the wrong log file (Z2.log, its ZServer's log file).
Activate Zope logging (--> "doc/LOGGING.txt").

 > - when all thread are busy there is no way to access zope, even to restart
 > it.
But, you can from the OS level.



Dieter

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Re: [Zope-dev] What makes Zope twirl?

[Dieter Maurer]

Paul Winkler wrote at 2003-2-6 19:24 -0800:
 > Or: when zope goes into a nonresponsive state,
 > what can you do to diagnose the cause?
We saw three occurences of this recently.

Two could be explained via Zope's logfile (--> "doc/LOGGING.txt"):

  *  Zope had run out of file descriptors, therefore, "accept" failed.

  *  Something had closed the "listen" socket.

 The dubious Solaris error message seemed to suggest an
 OS bug: "Connection closed by software".

One problem could not be analysed (nothing in the logfile).


Dieter

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Re: [Zope-dev] Does zope still need a python compiled with "--without-pymalloc" ?

[Dieter Maurer]

Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote at 2003-2-5 11:50 +0100:
 > well, the subject says it all. Why was it needed at all?
 > 
 > I still compile my python --without-pymalloc from the pre-python-2.1.3 days
 > when zope suffered from bugs in python.
 > 
 > I nowadays use Zope-2.5.1 and python 2.1.3, mostly.
I am almost sure, you no longer need it.

At least, we use Python 2.1.3 compiled without this option
and do not see problems (attributable "malloc").


Dieter

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[Zope-dev] (no subject)

[Anitha George]

Hi all
  I am trying to develop a Document Management System in zope.The 
features that have to be implemented managing folders,maintaining versions 
of an object,uploading a file,etc.I believe Zope supports all these 
features. I am planning to build an interface above the Zope ZMI and use 
these features. For this I have to understand which are the library files 
which carry out this function of managing folders and maintaining versions. 
Could any of you please help me out in understanding the Zope API i.e which 
are the libraries and files used for the above mentioned features so that I 
can implement it in my appication. Please help me out.I would be really 
grateful.Thanks in advance.Awaiting a quick response.

Regards,
Anitha




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