[Zope-dev] Re: The bleak Future of Zope?

2004-04-25 Thread Max M
Joachim Werner wrote: The problem of Zope 2 is - don't kill me for saying that - Plone. Plone and its foundations in CMF have created a large momentum around a terribly horrible code base. Believe me or not, almost everything gets more complicated with CMF/Plone than with plain Zope. Building

[Zope-dev] Re: Nightly Zope 3 Binary Compiles for WIndows

2004-04-25 Thread Jim Fulton
Chris Withers wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: FYI, there's a similar zip file now containing the same kind of thing for a current Zope3 checkout (s/Zope2/Zope3/ in the URL). If this is good enough for people trying to work from CVS on Windows, let me know and I'll update them from time to time, and

[Zope-dev] Re: Bug days?

2004-04-25 Thread Jim Fulton
Chris Withers wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whatever happened to the plan to have a monthly bug day on the last monday of each month or somesuch? Nothing, as usual, I guess. Even since bugdays where first thought of, more of then and more regular

[Zope-dev] copypastemove.ObjectMover / Bug

2004-04-25 Thread Roger Ineichen
package/class: zope.app.copypastemove.ObjectMover I think theres a bug or at least to less checks in the ObjectMover method moveableTo(). example that should raise a Error: The objects in a tree: root/folder2/folder2_2 if I copy folder2 to folder2_2 with: mover = IObjectMover(folder2) # or

[Zope-dev] Decouple Interface and zope.interface (Martijn was right)

2004-04-25 Thread Jim Fulton
My plan has been to make zope.interface interfaces and Interface interfaces interoperate. Martijn Faassen has been complaining about this for a while, because, to use zope.interface and Interface together required a hard-to-install facade. If we drop the requirement to make the interfaces

[Zope-dev] Change in repository approach to software sharing

2004-04-25 Thread Jim Fulton
The Zope project includes a number of interrelated subprojects, such as: - Zope 2 - Zope 3 - ZODB - ZConfig Software from the ZODB and ZConfig projects are shared by Zope 2 and Zope 3. We want this sharing to be very convenient for people working on Zope 2 and Zope 3. We don't want

[Zope-dev] CVS to svn conversion of the heads this Wednesday

2004-04-25 Thread Jim Fulton
I'd like to plan to convert the repository heads to subversion this Wednesday. I'll confirm this on Tuesday. It will be best of no one does any work on the head on Wednesday. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714

[Zope-dev] Do we need a Packages directory in the new repository

2004-04-25 Thread Jim Fulton
Historically, we've had Packages, Products, Packages3 and Products3 directories in the CBS repository. I wonder of we need these going forward. Perhaps we should just have top-level projct directories in the new subversion repository. In the initial conversion, I plan to convert projects pretty

[Zope-dev] Need help with http://dev.zope.org/Subversion

2004-04-25 Thread Jim Fulton
I copied: http://dev.zope.org/CVS to: http://dev.zope.org/Subversion Can help by converting the Subversion wiki to reflect subversion? :) The new writable subversion repository will be at: svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos I hope to have something in place for testing on Monday. For

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Need help with http://dev.zope.org/Subversion

2004-04-25 Thread Fred Drake
On Sunday 25 April 2004 12:29 pm, Jim Fulton wrote: cvs co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/Zope3/trunk Zope3 That should be: svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/Zope3/trunk Zope3 cvs co http://svn.zope.org/repos/Zope3/trunk Zope3 and this would be: svn co

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Need help with http://dev.zope.org/Subversion

2004-04-25 Thread Jim Fulton
Fred Drake wrote: On Sunday 25 April 2004 12:29 pm, Jim Fulton wrote: cvs co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/Zope3/trunk Zope3 That should be: svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/Zope3/trunk Zope3 cvs co http://svn.zope.org/repos/Zope3/trunk Zope3 and this would be: svn co

[Zope-dev] Weird couldn't load state on Zope 2.6.2

2004-04-25 Thread Chris Withers
Hi there, When I click on the Advanced tab of one of my ZSQL Methods, I see this: Traceback (innermost last): Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings,

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Need help with http://dev.zope.org/Subversion

2004-04-25 Thread Fred Drake
On Sunday 25 April 2004 01:00 pm, Jim Fulton wrote: Oops. Thanks. I gues some habits will be hard to kick. :) Yeah. Of course, CVS isn't just an old habit; it'll still be current practice, not just for Zope 2.6.x and 2.7.x, but for lots of projects. The general pain of two widely-used

[Zope-dev] Policy for Collector-Issues 545 and 1217?

2004-04-25 Thread Maik Jablonski
Hi, there are two collector-issues related to problems when Zope-Objects get ids like 'content_type' or 'URL1'. I think this problem exists for all names used in the REQUEST-object or general acquisitionable attributes of ObjectManagers. http://zope.org/Collectors/Zope/545

Re: [Zope-dev] The bleak Future of Zope?

2004-04-25 Thread Dieter Maurer
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2004-4-24 22:49 +0200: ... In practice right now the picture is 'Use all of the CMF or none of it'. No, not really... We use SkinsTool, ActionsTool and DCWorkflow a lot, MembershipTool sometimes and most other tools not at all. -- Dieter

Re: [Zope-dev] How should an ideal Zope IDE look like?

2004-04-25 Thread Andre Meyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Andre. thanks ;-) ... My main concern would be it's adaptibility to custom content types. If I have my own Geospatial-ish content type, how would the IDE handle it ? How would I go about making it handle it ? etc ... Archetypes? But then much more

Re: [Zope-dev] Policy for Collector-Issues 545 and 1217?

2004-04-25 Thread Jamie Heilman
Maik Jablonski wrote: Hi, there are two collector-issues related to problems when Zope-Objects get ids like 'content_type' or 'URL1'. I think this problem exists for all names used in the REQUEST-object or general acquisitionable attributes of ObjectManagers.

[Zope-dev] Z2 HEAD in rough shape for b/c

2004-04-25 Thread Chris McDonough
Using the HEAD with old databases and code is a real adventure these days for these reasons: - It doesn't start, due to a tiny config bug which I'll check a fix in for shortly. - Many products create instances of the class Persistence.PersistentMapping.PersistentMapping which no longer exists

[Zope-dev] Re: Mailing Log Entries in 2.7

2004-04-25 Thread Fred Drake
On Saturday 24 April 2004 06:26 pm, Chris Withers wrote: And there was me looking forward to writing a product that added its own ZConfig section :'( You still can if you like. ;-) Okay, how can I get the log level and exception type into the subject? That's not currently possible,

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Need help with http://dev.zope.org/Subversion

2004-04-25 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 12:48:30PM -0400, Fred Drake wrote: On Sunday 25 April 2004 12:29 pm, Jim Fulton wrote: cvs co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/Zope3/trunk Zope3 That should be: svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/Zope3/trunk Zope3 cvs co

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Need help with http://dev.zope.org/Subversion

2004-04-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andreas Kostyrka wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 12:48:30PM -0400, Fred Drake wrote: On Sunday 25 April 2004 12:29 pm, Jim Fulton wrote: cvs co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/Zope3/trunk Zope3 That should be: svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/Zope3/trunk Zope3 cvs co