[Zope-dev] Zope 2.8 on hold

2005-05-07 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi,
in agreement with Jim Fulton and Brian Lloyd we decided to put the Zope 2.8 
release on hold for now.
There are several open issues related to running Zope on Windows (building, 
startup problems). Since
we need  to have a stable source code release and a stable windows release 
in sync, the next beta 2
will appear as soon as the major issues are fixed. This is maybe a good 
point for advanced Windows
programmer to help out *wink*

Andreas

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[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.8 on hold

2005-05-07 Thread yuppie
Andreas Jung wrote:
in agreement with Jim Fulton and Brian Lloyd we decided to put the Zope 
2.8 release on hold for now.
There are several open issues related to running Zope on Windows 
(building, startup problems). Since
we need  to have a stable source code release and a stable windows 
release in sync, the next beta 2
will appear as soon as the major issues are fixed. This is maybe a good 
point for advanced Windows
programmer to help out *wink*
+1
Are there collector issues for the release blockers? A list of release 
blockers might help to find volunteers.

I'd like to nominate http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1776
Cheers, Yuppie
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[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testInterfaces.py Test interfaces with verifyClass in addition to verifyObject.

2005-05-07 Thread yuppie
Stefan H. Holek wrote:
Log message for revision 30296:
  Test interfaces with verifyClass in addition to verifyObject.
  
[...]
+self.failUnless(verifyClass(IProfiled, Profiled))
Does failUnless make any sense here? verifyClass() is either True or 
raises an Exception.

Cheers, Yuppie
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[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.8 on hold

2005-05-07 Thread Andreas Jung

--On Samstag, 7. Mai 2005 10:15 Uhr +0200 yuppie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Andreas Jung wrote:
in agreement with Jim Fulton and Brian Lloyd we decided to put the Zope
2.8 release on hold for now.
There are several open issues related to running Zope on Windows
(building, startup problems). Since
we need  to have a stable source code release and a stable windows
release in sync, the next beta 2
will appear as soon as the major issues are fixed. This is maybe a good
point for advanced Windows
programmer to help out *wink*
+1
Are there collector issues for the release blockers? A list of release
blockers might help to find volunteers.
I'd like to nominate http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1776
At least the following are important (besides the problem with the 
Winbuilder)

http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1763
http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1728
http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1711
Fix what you can :-) I am mostly ignorant on Windows issues and don't have
an environment for doing any tests are whatever...so it is basically up to 
the
people with windows expertise to work on these issues...I am just trying to 
crack
the whip :-)

Andreas

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.8 on hold

2005-05-07 Thread Andreas Jung

--On Samstag, 7. Mai 2005 12:56 Uhr -0400 Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

[Andreas Jung]
At least the following are important (besides the problem with the
Winbuilder)
What WinBuilders problem?  I keep hearing there's a problem there,
but don't know what it is -- and I had no problem using WinBuilders
for Zope 2.8.
I know only that Christian had problems (according to his posting some
days ago). I can not comment and can not value these issues. But there
seems to be something.

Note that these two aren't about Zope 2.8, they're about Zope 2.7.6:
http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1763
http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1711
Both appear to be due to that Zope 2.7.6 on Windows shipped with a
wrong (too old) version of pywin32, and continued to repackage pywin32
in the old (certifiably insane 0.7 wink) flat way.
Mark Hammond submitted patches to install a correct version of
pywin32, and in a correct way.  Those patches were incorporated into
WinBuilders, so it's hard to understand how Zope 2.7.6 on Windows got
built the way it did.  Can only guess the installer was built using an
out-of-date WinBuilders checkout, with an out-of-date pywin32, applied
to an up-to-date Zope checkout.
Christian should know...as I said...I have no idea about how this
windows stuff works and what it does...so I depend on the competence of
you windows guys :-)
-aj


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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.8 on hold

2005-05-07 Thread Tim Peters
[Andreas Jung]
 At least the following are important (besides the problem with the
 Winbuilder)

[Tim Peters]
 What WinBuilders problem?  I keep hearing there's a problem there,
 but don't know what it is -- and I had no problem using WinBuilders
 for Zope 2.8.

[Andreas]
 I know only that Christian had problems (according to his posting some
 days ago). I can not comment and can not value these issues. But there
 seems to be something.

If you're talking about his posts to this list, those were all
addressed some time ago, and all the problems in Zope 2.8's setup.py
he was hitting have been repaired.  If Christian still has problems, I
haven't seen anything about them (neither on this list nor anywhere
else).

 Note that these two aren't about Zope 2.8, they're about Zope 2.7.6:

  http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1763
  http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1711

 Both appear to be due to that Zope 2.7.6 on Windows shipped with a
 wrong (too old) version of pywin32, and continued to repackage pywin32
 in the old (certifiably insane 0.7 wink) flat way.

 Mark Hammond submitted patches to install a correct version of
 pywin32, and in a correct way.  Those patches were incorporated into
 WinBuilders, so it's hard to understand how Zope 2.7.6 on Windows got
 built the way it did.  Can only guess the installer was built using an
 out-of-date WinBuilders checkout, with an out-of-date pywin32, applied
 to an up-to-date Zope checkout.
 
 Christian should know...as I said...I have no idea about how this
 windows stuff works and what it does...so I depend on the competence of
 you windows guys :-)

It would help if Christian said something wink.

I'm not sure the point of the above got across:  the subject of this
thread is Zope 2.8 on hold, but the two issues identified above are
not Zope 2.8 issues.  They're Zope 2.7.6 issues.  Zope 2.8 shouldn't
have any problem with those.  Zope-2.7.6-final-win32.exe from zope.org
has those problems; they're not holding up 2.8.
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