Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 1/9/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never had the need to use them. No, but other people do. That's different from not wanting to use them. The more choice you have, the more trouble you have. I agree that a TRACE level might be of interest. But BLATHER and PROBLEM is

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 10. Januar 2006 10:51:04 +0100 Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find all this fairly self-evident and highly useful, and se absolutely zero reason for removing them, when they are so useful. This decision was made for Zope 2.8 (according to zLOG/__init__.py). We're now

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 1/10/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This decision was made for Zope 2.8 (according to zLOG/__init__.py). How do you mean? As far as I can see, all the levels are still there in zLOG py. The question now is weather two of these levels should be removed, as I understand it because

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 10. Januar 2006 11:09:32 +0100 Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/10/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This decision was made for Zope 2.8 (according to zLOG/__init__.py). How do you mean? As far as I can see, all the levels are still there in zLOG py. The

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 1/10/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't read anything about using old log levels for new code. And neither do I read anything about NOT using them. So, your statement that the decision was taken in 2.8 is false. That renders the last posts pointless, and we are back at my first

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 10. Januar 2006 11:44:31 +0100 Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have an opinion on solution yet. What I want is something easy to use wher you can just import a log method or object and make a function. I don't want to set things up, because if we need to set things up,

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 1/10/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means basically keeping zLOG since it is only a very thin logging module wrapper. So why did we deprecate zLOG? :-) Did we? It was implemented as a wrapper in 2.8, but wasn't officially deprecated until last week. ;-) I still have no

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 10. Januar 2006 12:20:14 +0100 Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/10/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means basically keeping zLOG since it is only a very thin logging module wrapper. So why did we deprecate zLOG? :-) Did we? It was implemented as a wrapper

[Zope-dev] Zope tests: 8 OK

2006-01-10 Thread Zope tests summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Mon Jan 9 12:01:02 2006 UTC to Tue Jan 10 12:01:02 2006 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2_6-branch Python-2.1.3 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Mon Jan 9 21:02:54 EST

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Florent Guillaume
Lennart Regebro wrote: I've never had the need to use them. No, but other people do. That's different from not wanting to use them. The more choice you have, the more trouble you have. I agree that a TRACE level might be of interest. But BLATHER and PROBLEM is competely overhead from my

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Tim Peters
[Andreas Jung] ... Obviously ZEO (using TRACE) runs on Zope 3 without zLOG so specific extension can be handled locally. ZEO also runs on Zopes 2.8 and 2.9 without zLOG -- zLOG hasn't been used in ZODB since 3.2 (ZODBs 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6, and current trunk contain no references to zLOG). If

[Zope-dev] buildbot failure in Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2006-01-10 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 2702 Blamelist: andreasjung,jim,oestermeier,philikon BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

[Zope-dev] Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Rocky Burt
Andreas Jung wrote: To bring this discussion to an end: - if we need specific logging functionaliy then it should be implemented to be shared between Zope 2 and Zope 3 - adjusting the current code base from 'logging' to zope.logging would mean just to replace the imports (assuming we