[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 6 OK

2010-02-03 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
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Period Tue Feb  2 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Wed Feb  3 12:00:00 2010 UTC.
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Tests passed OK
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Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Tue Feb  2 20:36:46 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-February/013497.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Tue Feb  2 20:38:46 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-February/013498.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Tue Feb  2 20:40:46 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-February/013499.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Tue Feb  2 20:42:46 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-February/013500.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Tue Feb  2 20:44:46 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-February/013501.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Tue Feb  2 20:46:46 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-February/013502.html

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[Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-03 Thread Tom Gross
Hi all,

  with HTML5 the frame-elements will die. It will probably take some
years before the browser-support of HTML4 will stop, but still. Are
there any alternative implementations for the Zope2-ZMI?

There is a package zmi.core in the Zope-svn, but except some links to
other packages there is nothing in it. Is the package alive and what's
the targeted platform: Zope2, BlueBream, grok?

-Tom

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-03 Thread Andreas Jung
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Tom Gross wrote:
 Hi all,

 with HTML5 the frame-elements will die. It will probably take some
 years before the browser-support of HTML4 will stop, but still.
 Are there any alternative implementations for the Zope2-ZMI?
Get the frame-less ZMI by using /manage_main
and the frame problem is solved. Yes, you lose the treeview but I actually
never used it in my whole Zope life.

Andreas

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-03 Thread Matthew Wilkes
  with HTML5 the frame-elements will die. It will probably take some
 years before the browser-support of HTML4 will stop, but still. Are
 there any alternative implementations for the Zope2-ZMI?

This is such a minor thing that if we do ever get to a stage where  
we're having to get rid of the frames it would just be a patch.  I  
never use frames in the ZMI myself, I just hit manage_main

Matt
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Tom Gross itconse...@gmail.com wrote:
  with HTML5 the frame-elements will die. It will probably take some
 years before the browser-support of HTML4 will stop, but still. Are
 there any alternative implementations for the Zope2-ZMI?

I'd very much expect the general purpose ZMI to vanish long before the
first browsers stop supporting HTML4. If they'll ever do that, it will
probably be another 10 years or more. I doubt anyone can tell what
Zope 2.20 will look like or if it will exist at all ;-)

Hanno
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-03 Thread Christian Theune
On 02/03/2010 02:45 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Tom Gross itconse...@gmail.com wrote:
  with HTML5 the frame-elements will die. It will probably take some
 years before the browser-support of HTML4 will stop, but still. Are
 there any alternative implementations for the Zope2-ZMI?
 
 I'd very much expect the general purpose ZMI to vanish long before the
 first browsers stop supporting HTML4. If they'll ever do that, it will
 probably be another 10 years or more. I doubt anyone can tell what
 Zope 2.20 will look like or if it will exist at all ;-)

Zope 2.20 will probably use Twitter as the ZMI ... SCNR

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-03 Thread Yusei TAHARA
Hi,

On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:20:08 +0100
Tom Gross itconse...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
   with HTML5 the frame-elements will die. It will probably take some
 years before the browser-support of HTML4 will stop, but still. Are
 there any alternative implementations for the Zope2-ZMI?
 
 There is a package zmi.core in the Zope-svn, but except some links to
 other packages there is nothing in it. Is the package alive and what's
 the targeted platform: Zope2, BlueBream, grok?

I have been working for zmi.core for several months and it is still
under construction(sorry). The target was Zope3 and now it's BlueBream.
Of course we can use it for grok. Zope2's ZMI is different.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-03 Thread Roberto Allende
Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Tom Gross itconse...@gmail.com wrote:
  with HTML5 the frame-elements will die. It will probably take some
 years before the browser-support of HTML4 will stop, but still. Are
 there any alternative implementations for the Zope2-ZMI?
 
 I'd very much expect the general purpose ZMI to vanish long before the
 first browsers stop supporting HTML4. If they'll ever do that, it will
 probably be another 10 years or more. I doubt anyone can tell what
 Zope 2.20 will look like or if it will exist at all ;-)
 
 Hanno

Hello

Probably at this point of the conversation is the right moment to ask if 
it would make sense to improve Zope2's ZMI, removing frames and perhaps 
DTML code and probably removing all the dtml from zope2.

Kind Regards
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-03 Thread Yusei TAHARA
Hi,

On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:59:52 -0300
Roberto Allende ro...@menttes.com wrote:
(snip)
 Probably at this point of the conversation is the right moment to ask if 
 it would make sense to improve Zope2's ZMI, removing frames and perhaps 
 DTML code and probably removing all the dtml from zope2.

I'd say that removing all the dtml from zope2 is too much. I know that
there are many web sites which have used dtml for a long time. And also
dtml works quite well without any serious problems.

Regards,
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