Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?

2002-10-31 Thread Chris Withers
Jeffrey P Shell wrote:


But release often is a BITCH for software configuration management.  
Good for developers, bad for deployers.

Why?

Chris


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Re: [Zope-dev] My 2.6.0 feature patch didn't make it!?

2002-10-31 Thread Chris Withers
Brad Clements wrote:

But the passive port range patch didn't make it into 2.6


Do you have CVS access?


No. I emailed both sets of patches to .. Brian (?) at the same time.


Suggest you apply for it. DIY is the best way of making sure stuff gets in :-)

cheers,

Chris


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Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?

2002-10-31 Thread Casey Duncan
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:32:59 -0700
Jeffrey P Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 04:22  AM, Chris Withers wrote:
 
  Ross J. Reedstrom wrote:
  It what world do you live, and can I move there?
 
  You miss the point ;-)
 
  The flurry to get features into a 'stable' release is what I was on 
  about.
  If you flurry, the release won't be stable.
 
  I like the pattern of having stable releases and CVS or nightly builds 
  for people who want the latest and greatest. That way everyone gets to 
  contribute easily and freely and yet we still get truly stable 
  versions.
 
  Maybe not to the extent of having seperate 'dev' and 'stable' streams 
  a la Linux, but that's a good feeling in essence.
 
  Still, the overarching thing is release early and often. The fewer 
  features in each release, the fewer problems of I need this feature, 
  but that means I also have to accept this one that I don't trust
 
 But release often is a BITCH for software configuration management.  
 Good for developers, bad for deployers.

Hence the nightly build. Just for developers or early adopters. Not for deployers.

-Casey

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Re: [Zope-dev] Web Services for Zope; what happened?

2002-10-31 Thread Eric Roby
Brian,

I have been an active user of Zope for nearly two years.  My current
position affords me the opportunity to finally give something back to the
community.  I work for NOAA and Web Services will be a critical piece of our
web architecture strategy this coming year.  Our branch is located in
southwestern Mississippi, so we are in the building phase (wrt python/zope
expertise - no Zope developers down here except me and impossible to get
anyone who has the experience to seriously consider relocating here ...
Ha! ).

What I am able to offer is 1-2 fulltime software engineers for as long as it
takes  to do this right.  I have read your proposal (just after you released
it last year) and thought it very well done.  I like the implementation you
describe and agree with your proposal 100%. The time frame that I am talking
about (fulltime developer support) is beginning in January.  If it is
possible to get some preliminary stuff out of the way before hand, that
would be great.  If it would require some face time with you, that would be
possible as well.

Let me know if this is an agreeable arrangement and your  thoughts on how we
proceed from here. Any responses should be directed to my work email which
is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks in advance...
Eric

 I've had a number of people inquire about the status of the package,
 but so far no one willing to volunteer to move things forward. If
 you (or anyone else) is interested, I'd be happy to provide any
 guidance I can.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Web Services for Zope; what happened?

2002-10-31 Thread Andy McKay
I got a hacked together version of WebServices sort of working at
ActiveState at the around the same time Brian was working on that code. I
think its still working, but its no where near complete:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Syndication. Unfortunately you'd have to
smile sweetly at ActiveState to get the code from them, if a quick toy,
hacky implementation is all you need that might be the way.

I'd really like to look at WebServices for Zope 3, perhaps it is one area I
can help. Part of the problem I think was that Web Services did not slot
into Zope 2 nicely especially with the automagical nature of things like
XMLRPC. The Zope3 View architecture seems to be the way to go and provide a
good opportunity for this.

 There is not currently (or at least there wasn't
 last I checked) a drop-in library for this that exposed what I
 felt would be needed, and I definitely don't have the time to
 implement one :)

I haven't looked at ZSI for a while but as I think that was the most
promising package at the time.

But I'm not promising or commiting to anything because if I do it's doomed
not to happen.
--
  Andy McKay
  www.agmweb.ca



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Re: [Zope-dev] Web Services for Zope; what happened?

2002-10-31 Thread Andy McKay
 What I am able to offer is 1-2 fulltime software engineers for as long as
it
 takes  to do this right.  I have read your proposal (just after you
released
 it last year) and thought it very well done.  I like the implementation
you
 describe and agree with your proposal 100%. The time frame that I am
talking
 about (fulltime developer support) is beginning in January.  If it is
 possible to get some preliminary stuff out of the way before hand, that
 would be great.  If it would require some face time with you, that would
be
 possible as well.

If its in Jan. would looking at Zope 3 be a better idea?
--
  Andy McKay
  www.agmweb.ca



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Re: [Zope-dev] Web Services for Zope; what happened?

2002-10-31 Thread Eric Roby
Andy,

I wondered about that.  I have been following some of the dialog on the Zope
3 dev list but it is unclear to me its status.  We (my office) would like to
have the Web Services capability by July/August time frame (earlier if
possible), so don't know if that falls in line with a stable Zope 3.  Your
thoughts...

Eric


 If its in Jan. would looking at Zope 3 be a better idea?
 --
   Andy McKay
   www.agmweb.ca


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