Re: [Zope-dev] Bug day?

2003-06-12 Thread Jamie Heilman
hopefully it will be a tad more successful than the last one

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Re: R: [Zope-dev] RE: DBtab and BDBStorage

2003-06-12 Thread Shane Hathaway
Andrew R. Halko wrote:
Yeah, I tried to update python with Plone and that was mess.  Now, are
you able to run ZEO Server on the same server as Zope/Plone, maybe
through another port?  I am limited to one server and there is no
getting around that.  Right now I have my site mounted on 5 different
ZODBs and it seems to be a pretty good solution for me.  Still, it would
be nice not to have that limitation.
Yes, ZEO and Zope can easily coexist in a single box.  ZEO always 
listens on a different port than Zope.

Shane

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RE: [Zope-dev] RE: DBtab and BDBStorage

2003-06-12 Thread Andrew R. Halko
The powers that be... 

Also, I did not know of the issue and didn't think I'd have any
problems.

Andrew R. Halko

-Original Message-
From: Chris Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:25 AM
To: Andrew R. Halko
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] RE: DBtab and BDBStorage

(keep it on the list please)

Andrew R. Halko wrote:
> Are you running Windows or Linux?  Windows and python do not support
LFS

Why are you trying to run a production system on Windows?

Chris



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RE: R: [Zope-dev] RE: DBtab and BDBStorage

2003-06-12 Thread Andrew R. Halko

Yeah, I tried to update python with Plone and that was mess.  Now, are
you able to run ZEO Server on the same server as Zope/Plone, maybe
through another port?  I am limited to one server and there is no
getting around that.  Right now I have my site mounted on 5 different
ZODBs and it seems to be a pretty good solution for me.  Still, it would
be nice not to have that limitation.

Andrew R. Halko


-Original Message-
From: Shane Hathaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Fabio Paracchini
Cc: 'Chris Withers'; Andrew R. Halko; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: R: [Zope-dev] RE: DBtab and BDBStorage

Fabio Paracchini wrote:
> Another way is if you install Python 2.2 and ZODB3.2a, you can use ZEO
and
> mount via DBTab. 
> 
> In this way you can use Py2.3+ZODB3.2a as ZEO server, and use LFS, and
then
> mount the storage via ZEO Client on a Py2.1+ZODB3.2a+ZOPE.
> 
> I tried this only on an experimental setup, and it seemed to work, at
least
> I was able to mount a DB and create a Plone site; I didn't do any
stress
> test, i.e. load more than 2Gb. If someone is willing to try more, I'll
be
> happy to assist...

Yes, this works and lets you grow beyond 2 GB.  I know www.zope.org has 
run like this before--it might even be running that way now.  Zope and 
the ZEO server don't need to run the same Python version at all.

Shane




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Re: R: [Zope-dev] RE: DBtab and BDBStorage

2003-06-12 Thread Shane Hathaway
Fabio Paracchini wrote:
Another way is if you install Python 2.2 and ZODB3.2a, you can use ZEO and
mount via DBTab. 

In this way you can use Py2.3+ZODB3.2a as ZEO server, and use LFS, and then
mount the storage via ZEO Client on a Py2.1+ZODB3.2a+ZOPE.
I tried this only on an experimental setup, and it seemed to work, at least
I was able to mount a DB and create a Plone site; I didn't do any stress
test, i.e. load more than 2Gb. If someone is willing to try more, I'll be
happy to assist...
Yes, this works and lets you grow beyond 2 GB.  I know www.zope.org has 
run like this before--it might even be running that way now.  Zope and 
the ZEO server don't need to run the same Python version at all.

Shane



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R: [Zope-dev] RE: DBtab and BDBStorage

2003-06-12 Thread Fabio Paracchini


>-Messaggio originale-
>Da: Chris Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Inviato: giovedì 12 giugno 2003 15.40
>A: Andrew R. Halko
>Cc: 'Fabio Paracchini'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Shane Hathaway'
>Oggetto: Re: [Zope-dev] RE: DBtab and BDBStorage


>Andrew R. Halko wrote:
>> Well, currently I cannot get python 2.2.3 to work with Plone.  

>What do you need Python 2.2.3 for?

>> 2.2.3 will support up to 4TB, which would solve all my problems, but it
>> doesn't work.

>I have LFS in 2.1.3, have you tried recompiling Python 2.1.3 with LFS?

>cheers,

>Chris

I would add that 2.1.3 on Windows does not support LFS. At least from what I
see from here:

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2002-October/124030.html

Anyone has different info ?

Another way is if you install Python 2.2 and ZODB3.2a, you can use ZEO and
mount via DBTab. 

In this way you can use Py2.3+ZODB3.2a as ZEO server, and use LFS, and then
mount the storage via ZEO Client on a Py2.1+ZODB3.2a+ZOPE.

I tried this only on an experimental setup, and it seemed to work, at least
I was able to mount a DB and create a Plone site; I didn't do any stress
test, i.e. load more than 2Gb. If someone is willing to try more, I'll be
happy to assist...

Ciao
Fabio

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Re: [Zope-dev] RE: DBtab and BDBStorage

2003-06-12 Thread Chris Withers
(keep it on the list please)

Andrew R. Halko wrote:
Are you running Windows or Linux?  Windows and python do not support LFS
Why are you trying to run a production system on Windows?

Chris

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[Zope-dev] Zope 3 newsletter 8th edition

2003-06-12 Thread Gary Poster
WELCOME TO THE ZOPE 3 NEWSLETTER: ISSUE 8 (12 JUNE 2003)

  Welcome to the eighth Zope 3 newsletter.  Information about Zope 3
  and newsletter contributions and suggestions can be found at the
  bottom of this newsletter.
GLOSSARY FOR THE UNINITIATED

  Encounter a term in this newsletter you don't know?  Try this
  glossary:  http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/NewsletterGlossary
NEWS SNIPPETS:

 - Jim Fulton plans to lead a sprint in Fredericksburg, VA, in the Zope
   Corporation offices, June 21-23.  Spaces are still available. See
   http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/Fredericksburg2003Sprint2 for more
   information.
 - A number of talented Zope 3 developers are sprinting prior to
   EuroPython in Louvain-la-Neuve, Belgium, June 22-24.  See
   http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/EuroPython2003Sprint for more information.
 - Jim Fulton plans for a Zope 3 beta for end of June.

 - Jim Fulton is also scheduled to lead a sprint in Melbourne,
   Australia, July 9-13.  Spaces are still available.  See
   http://www.ozzope.org/OzSprintWiki for more information.
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  ZeOmega is converting all ZPTs and string constants in the Zope 3
  application subdirectory (zope.app) to make them i18n aware.
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  map to directories, page templates map to files containing the text of
  the page template, and so on.  Unrecognized objects are represented as
  a blob of XML.
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  it without arguments to get help.  The README.txt file in the same
  directory has more project information, and links to Wiki pages.  It
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  (/++etc++site/) as well; the next stage of the project will be to
  extend the fssync machinery to allow installing and managing site
  management bundles (the envisioned primary mechanism for distributing
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available in the request, translation of Python code is possible,
the JobBoardI18n demo is updated and translation extraction tools
have been written. The only tasks left to do is to implement the
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Re: [Zope-dev] Bug day?

2003-06-12 Thread Lennart Regebro
Brian Lloyd wrote:
Hi all - 

We had been planning to make a Zope 2.7a1 release on Friday, 
and another 2.6.2 beta soon as well. Someone noted (rightly!) 
that it would be ideal if we could have a bugday first.

So I'll propose next Tuesday the 16th be bug day, and we'll 
plan to make both releases by the end of next week. 

Thoughts?
Fine by me.

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[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] Bug day?

2003-06-12 Thread Andreas Jung
Sounds like a good plan.

Andreas

--On Mittwoch, 11. Juni 2003 22:08 Uhr -0400 Brian Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Hi all -

We had been planning to make a Zope 2.7a1 release on Friday,
and another 2.6.2 beta soon as well. Someone noted (rightly!)
that it would be ideal if we could have a bugday first.
So I'll propose next Tuesday the 16th be bug day, and we'll
plan to make both releases by the end of next week.
Thoughts?

Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED]
V.P. Engineering   540.361.1716
Zope Corporation   http://www.zope.com
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[Zope-dev] Bug day?

2003-06-12 Thread Brian Lloyd
Hi all - 

We had been planning to make a Zope 2.7a1 release on Friday, 
and another 2.6.2 beta soon as well. Someone noted (rightly!) 
that it would be ideal if we could have a bugday first.

So I'll propose next Tuesday the 16th be bug day, and we'll 
plan to make both releases by the end of next week. 

Thoughts?


Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED]
V.P. Engineering   540.361.1716   
Zope Corporation   http://www.zope.com


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Re: [Zope-dev] RE: DBtab and BDBStorage

2003-06-12 Thread Chris Withers
Andrew R. Halko wrote:
Well, currently I cannot get python 2.2.3 to work with Plone.  
What do you need Python 2.2.3 for?

2.2.3 will support up to 4TB, which would solve all my problems, but it
doesn't work.
I have LFS in 2.1.3, have you tried recompiling Python 2.1.3 with LFS?

cheers,

Chris

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