Re: [Zope-dev] Re: weak examples, weak exploits
Chris McDonough wrote: > Jamie Heilman came up with a reasonable way to do this. The Zope Quick > Start page instructs the user to import the examples and gives him a > link which does so by calling manage_import. Actually... /me points at Casey ...not my idea, I just implemented a good suggestion. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] weak examples, weak exploits
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 10:33:42AM -0400, Casey Duncan wrote: > I would be in favor of making the Examples "opt-in" like the Zope > tutorial. It seems silly to have it in evey ZODB by default. Make people > add it if they want it. Moreover, the examples installed everywhere attract spam to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I have seen numerous 'increase website traffic' spams explicitly mentioning /Examples URLs around the net. -- Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ - ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: weak examples, weak exploits
Shane Hathaway wrote: This seems like a fine idea, but what action would the user take to install examples and extras? In my initial implementation, there was a separate page that listed the names and descriptions of the various examples, with links to install them. If I recall correctly, this page was reached from a link on Folder views, much like the current "Help" link. Also linking from the Quick Start sounds like a fine idea. Cheers, Evan @ 4-am ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: weak examples, weak exploits
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 10:09, Shane Hathaway wrote: > PieterB wrote: > >>Evan Simpson wrote: > >> > >>>Casey Duncan wrote: > >>> > >>> > I would be in favor of making the Examples "opt-in" like the Zope > tutorial. It seems silly to have it in evey ZODB by default. Make > people add it if they want it. > >> > >>This seems like a fine idea, but what action would the user take to > >>install examples and extras? > > > > I think the best way would be using a python script/Makefile that > > installs a .zexp file (or use http-upload with httplib). Configure > > should grow a --install-tutorial option. > > > > Mmmm... I need to clarify my question. Let's say you make and install > Zope. You fire it up and don't know what to do next. You look for some > button or control in the UI for displaying documentation and examples. > What do you find? An entry in the add list? Will you still find the > "help" link, but clicking it only tells you how to install the > documentation? Zope needs to help the user find the docs. Jamie Heilman came up with a reasonable way to do this. The Zope Quick Start page instructs the user to import the examples and gives him a link which does so by calling manage_import. I've merged this into the HEAD and the 2.6 branch. - C ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: weak examples, weak exploits
PieterB wrote: Evan Simpson wrote: Casey Duncan wrote: I would be in favor of making the Examples "opt-in" like the Zope tutorial. It seems silly to have it in evey ZODB by default. Make people add it if they want it. This seems like a fine idea, but what action would the user take to install examples and extras? I think the best way would be using a python script/Makefile that installs a .zexp file (or use http-upload with httplib). Configure should grow a --install-tutorial option. Mmmm... I need to clarify my question. Let's say you make and install Zope. You fire it up and don't know what to do next. You look for some button or control in the UI for displaying documentation and examples. What do you find? An entry in the add list? Will you still find the "help" link, but clicking it only tells you how to install the documentation? Zope needs to help the user find the docs. Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: weak examples, weak exploits
> Evan Simpson wrote: > > Casey Duncan wrote: > > > >> I would be in favor of making the Examples "opt-in" like the Zope > >> tutorial. It seems silly to have it in evey ZODB by default. Make > >> people add it if they want it. > This seems like a fine idea, but what action would the user take to > install examples and extras? I think the best way would be using a python script/Makefile that installs a .zexp file (or use http-upload with httplib). Configure should grow a --install-tutorial option. Pieter -- http://zwiki.org/PieterB ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: weak examples, weak exploits
Evan Simpson wrote: Casey Duncan wrote: I would be in favor of making the Examples "opt-in" like the Zope tutorial. It seems silly to have it in evey ZODB by default. Make people add it if they want it. Many, many moons ago I created evan-examples-branch, which allows individual Products to offer sample code without (magically or otherwise) forcing them upon the user. I'd love to see it revived, perhaps as "Examples/Optional Extras" in order to cover the Hurt system as well. This seems like a fine idea, but what action would the user take to install examples and extras? Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
