Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Test runner: layers, subprocesses, and tear down

2008-07-12 Thread Dieter Maurer
Martin Aspeli wrote at 2008-7-4 00:56 +0100: > >Benji York wrote: > >Parallisation can offer huge (!) speed increases, but it can also be >hard to debug tests. I'd be tempted to let single threaded by the >default, safe choice, and let people opt into parallisation only when >they know

Re: [Zope-dev] Test runner: layers, subprocesses, and tear down

2008-07-12 Thread Dieter Maurer
Benji York wrote at 2008-7-3 17:44 -0400: >On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 17:22 -0400, Benji York wrote: >>> I'd like to 1) remove the layer tear-down mechanism entirely, and 2) >>> make (almost) all layers run in a subprocess.

[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Martin Aspeli
Mark Hammond wrote: I think you've misunderstood slightly here ... PAS was and is a Zope 2 user folder implementation. It pre-dates Zope 3 (at least as we know it now). I was referring to the thread at http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-pas/2004-September/86.html, entitled "[Zope-PAS] Chal

RE: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Mark Hammond
> I think you've misunderstood slightly here ... PAS was and is a Zope 2 > user folder implementation. It pre-dates Zope 3 (at least as we know it > now). I was referring to the thread at http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-pas/2004-September/86.html, entitled "[Zope-PAS] Challengers (and Zope

[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Hammond wrote: >> Well, Zope moved onwards from PAS to PAU I doubt that seriously: I would venture that there are two orders of magnitude more users of PAS than PAU in production deployments. PAU was an attempt to port the PAS to a "component-c

[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Martin Aspeli
Sidnei da Silva wrote: "may or may become a part of Zope and/or Plone in the future". Well put Martin. ;) Hah, obviously I meant "may or may not". :) Martin -- Author of `Professional Plone Development`, a book for developers who want to work with Plone. See http://martinaspeli.net/plone-book

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Sidnei da Silva
"may or may become a part of Zope and/or Plone in the future". Well put Martin. ;) -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systems http://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope

[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Martin Aspeli
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I call BS here. PAS is not a "custom solution", it's much more of a standard than PAU is. The question remains, "why?". You're reinventing wheels for Zope 2 that do not need to be reinvented. One day when PAU has indeed surpassed PAS in terms of functionality and plu

[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Martin Aspeli
Mark Hammond wrote: Well, Zope moved onwards from PAS to PAU and I think Plone should too, because: It seems like just yesterday that PAS offered the promise of being the nice clean way forward for authentication, and even offered a path to Zope3. I've been subscribed to zope-dev since then, bu

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2008-07-12 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Fri Jul 11 11:00:00 2008 UTC to Sat Jul 12 11:00:00 2008 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Jul 11 20:59:49 EDT 2008 URL: http://m

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases

2008-07-12 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, I think it's good to attach a traceback. Did someone create a launchpad issue out of this one yet? Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! **

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases

2008-07-12 Thread Lorenzo Gil Sánchez
El sáb, 05-07-2008 a las 14:26 -0700, Stephan Richter escribió: > On Thursday 26 June 2008, Martijn Faassen wrote: > > I'm curious about the plans of Zope 3 on Python 2.5. > > > > * Are people using Zope 3 with Python 2.5 already? What are your > > experiences? > > Yes, works flawlessly. The probl

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jul 12, 2008, at 03:04 , Florian Friesdorf wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:56:19PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: The one thing I am missing is: why? Well, Zope moved onwards from PAS to PAU Huh? Zope 2 uses PAS. The Zope 3 folks have attempted to come up with a similar solution, bu

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jul 12, 2008, at 09:33 , Mark Hammond wrote: Well, Zope moved onwards from PAS to PAU and I think Plone should too, because: It seems like just yesterday that PAS offered the promise of being the nice clean way forward for authentication, and even offered a path to Zope3. I've been s

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases

2008-07-12 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 04 July 2008, Chris Withers wrote: >> Apparently, it's all good to go, even RestrictedPython. >> The thing stopping me is that no-one seems willing and able (in that >> combination, I'm willing but don't

[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 11. Juli 2008 18:04:16 -0700 Florian Friesdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:56:19PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Florian Friesdorf wrote: > Hi *, > > within the scope of google summer of code I am integrating zope 3's > PAU with Plone's PAS and fur

RE: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Mark Hammond
> Well, Zope moved onwards from PAS to PAU and I think Plone should too, > because: It seems like just yesterday that PAS offered the promise of being the nice clean way forward for authentication, and even offered a path to Zope3. I've been subscribed to zope-dev since then, but somehow the anoin