[Zope-dev] wiki downtime, zope.interface 3.0.0b1, and buildout/setuptools crash

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Theune
Hi,

a) the wiki is down. Can someone please fix this?

b) the homepage of zope.interface 3.0.0b1 points to the wiki. I changed
this so that c) gets fixed for now.

This probably results in 3.0.0b1 becoming uninstallable right now,
although I doubt that it was installable (through the wiki) before.

c) buildout/setuptools crashes on the opportunity that urllib raises a
BadStatusLine exception instead of checking the next possibility. This
is inside of setuptools though.

Christian

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Re: [Zope-dev] wiki downtime, zope.interface 3.0.0b1, and buildout/setuptools crash

2008-08-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl


On Aug 11, 2008, at 10:07 , Christian Theune wrote:


a) the wiki is down. Can someone please fix this?


Well, it wasn't down like it always was on the old server, Apache just  
served an empty page for it. This appears to have been a (unrelated)  
Apache configuration. It's fixed now.


jens


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Re: [Zope-dev] zc.zope3recipes : set offline tests everywhere

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Withers

Christophe Combelles wrote:

Is this change ok?
It seems to solve the previous failures in the 3.4 kgs, and speeds up 
the test.


I don't have a problem with the change, but this damages the usefulness 
of README.txt as documentation.


As someone who's never used zope3recipes, I'm going to read that and 
wonder why offline = true is in there all the time as there are no 
comments or explanation.


Myself, I'd try and find another way of getting offline=true to happen 
so that the docs can actually remain actual docs without test cruft 
strewn throughout them.


cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: bad zope.size to remove from PyPI

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Withers

Aaron Lehmann wrote:
If the buildout is nailed to that version or above, and there is none, 
it breaks. 


Well, breaks is good, but hopefully that means gives an error message 
along the lines of '''you specified version 'x.y.z' which could not be 
found'''. Is that what happens or do you just get some obscure random 
exception?


Worse, if someone now adds another egg of the same version, 
but consumers have cached a version, their buildout won't download it, 
because it will already have that version in cache.


That's only in case of re-use of an exact version number, right?
Of course, PyPI should store MD5s for packages and buildout should use 
them :-(


Yes, mistakes happen.  What Benji is saying is that deletion is not the 
right way to remedy them, as unintuitive as that may seem.


...and I'm saying I don't agree...

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2008-08-11 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list.
Period Sun Aug 10 11:00:00 2008 UTC to Mon Aug 11 11:00:00 2008 UTC.
There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Tests.


Tests passed OK
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Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Aug 10 20:52:30 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-August/009990.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Aug 10 20:54:01 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-August/009991.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Aug 10 20:55:31 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-August/009992.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Aug 10 20:57:01 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-August/009993.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Aug 10 20:58:31 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-August/009994.html

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Re: [Zope-dev] wiki downtime, zope.interface 3.0.0b1, and buildout/setuptools crash

2008-08-11 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 11 August 2008, Christian Theune wrote:
 c) buildout/setuptools crashes on the opportunity that urllib raises a
 BadStatusLine exception instead of checking the next possibility. This
 is inside of setuptools though.

Thanks for debugging. :-) That was my first task this morning. ;-)

Regards,
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Re: [Zope-dev] zc.zope3recipes : set offline tests everywhere

2008-08-11 Thread Jim Fulton

On Aug 11, 2008, at 5:17 AM, Chris Withers wrote:

 Christophe Combelles wrote:
 Is this change ok?
 It seems to solve the previous failures in the 3.4 kgs, and speeds  
 up the test.

 I don't have a problem with the change, but this damages the  
 usefulness of README.txt as documentation.

 As someone who's never used zope3recipes, I'm going to read that and  
 wonder why offline = true is in there all the time as there are no  
 comments or explanation.

 Myself, I'd try and find another way of getting offline=true to  
 happen so that the docs can actually remain actual docs without test  
 cruft strewn throughout them.


I agree.

A sneaky way to do this would be to change the setup code to set a  
HOME environment variable to a temporary directory  
containing .buildout/default.cfg with:

   [buildout]
   newest = false

Jim

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Re: [Zope-dev] zc.zope3recipes : set offline tests everywhere

2008-08-11 Thread Benji York
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Aug 11, 2008, at 5:17 AM, Chris Withers wrote:

 Christophe Combelles wrote:
 Is this change ok?
 It seems to solve the previous failures in the 3.4 kgs, and speeds
 up the test.

 I don't have a problem with the change, but this damages the
 usefulness of README.txt as documentation.

 As someone who's never used zope3recipes, I'm going to read that and
 wonder why offline = true is in there all the time as there are no
 comments or explanation.

 Myself, I'd try and find another way of getting offline=true to
 happen so that the docs can actually remain actual docs without test
 cruft strewn throughout them.


 I agree.

 A sneaky way to do this would be to change the setup code to set a
 HOME environment variable to a temporary directory
 containing .buildout/default.cfg with:

I'll throw out another option: you can add doctest examples in reST
comments to enable offline mode.  Something like this:


.. Set offline mode so the tests run correctly (or whatever).

 DO THING HERE

Now we foo the bar with the baz

 baz.foo(bar)


When rendered to HTML (or any other target) the first part won't be
visible, but the second part will be.

If you have to do this much a global approach (like the one Jim
suggested) would likely be better, but I wanted to demonstrate this
approach because it can be useful when you don't want to pollute
otherwise good documentation.
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