Re: [Zope-dev] When is the configuration read in Zope 2.7?

2004-05-17 Thread Erik A . Dahl
Things changed around a bit since I did this patch.  I'm trying to get 
a new one working but am having some issues with the 2.7 trunk in svn.  
I think in general the startup sequence could use some clean up.  I'm 
working on mapping how it all works maybe that would help make it less 
opaque.

-EAD
On May 15, 2004, at 12:53 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
I think Fred might have some ideas about how to do the ZOPE_CONFIG
feature better if you can coax them out of him. ;-)
On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 03:56, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On Samstag, 15. Mai 2004 1:59 Uhr +0200 Stefan H. Holek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zope tests fail for me, unfortunately Andreas cannot reproduce this.
The ZOPE_CONFIG patch was responsible for other failures. I reverted 
the
change
and check for a better solution by next week.

-aj

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[Zope-dev] Getting Zope 2.7 trunk working

2004-05-17 Thread Erik A . Dahl
I'm trying to do work off of the 2.7 trunk in svn.  After doing:
svn svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope/trunk zope
./configure
make
make instance
when I run bin/zopectl debug I get the following, what am I doing wrong?
No handlers could be found for logger Init
Starting debugger (the name app is bound to the top-level Zope object)
2004-05-17 11:33:09 WARNING Init Ambiguous name for method of  
OFS.Uninstalled.BrokenClass: 'manage' != 'manage_main'
2004-05-17 11:33:09 WARNING Init Ambiguous name for method of  
OFS.Uninstalled.BrokenClass: 'manage' != 'manage_workspace'
2004-05-17 11:33:10 ERROR Zope.ZODBMountPoint Failed to mount database.  
exceptions.AttributeError ('Connection' object has no attribute  
'_getMountedConnection')
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File  
/home/edahl/src/zope/lib/python/Products/ZODBMountPoint/Mount.py,  
line 93, in _getOrOpenObject
conn = self._getMountedConnection(anyjar)
  File  
/home/edahl/src/zope/lib/python/Products/ZODBMountPoint/Mount.py,  
line 71, in _getMountedConnection
conn = anyjar._getMountedConnection(db_name)
AttributeError: 'Connection' object has no attribute  
'_getMountedConnection'
2004-05-17 11:33:10 ERROR Zope Default Object Creation Could not add a  
/temp_folder mount point due to an error.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /home/edahl/src/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 358,  
in install_tempfolder_and_sdc
manage_addMounts(app, ('/temp_folder',))
  File  
/home/edahl/src/zope/lib/python/Products/ZODBMountPoint/ 
MountedObject.py, line 283, in manage_addMounts
mo._test(app)
  File  
/home/edahl/src/zope/lib/python/Products/ZODBMountPoint/Mount.py,  
line 126, in _test
self._getOrOpenObject(parent)
  File  
/home/edahl/src/zope/lib/python/Products/ZODBMountPoint/Mount.py,  
line 93, in _getOrOpenObject
conn = self._getMountedConnection(anyjar)
  File  
/home/edahl/src/zope/lib/python/Products/ZODBMountPoint/Mount.py,  
line 71, in _getMountedConnection
conn = anyjar._getMountedConnection(db_name)
AttributeError: 'Connection' object has no attribute  
'_getMountedConnection'


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Re: [Zope-dev] When is the configuration read in Zope 2.7?

2004-05-17 Thread Erik A . Dahl
Things changed around a bit since I did this patch.  I'm trying to get 
a new one working but am having some issues with the 2.7 trunk in svn.  
I think in general the startup sequence could use some clean up.  I'm 
working on mapping how it all works maybe that would help make it less 
opaque.

-EAD
On May 15, 2004, at 12:53 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
I think Fred might have some ideas about how to do the ZOPE_CONFIG
feature better if you can coax them out of him. ;-)
On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 03:56, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On Samstag, 15. Mai 2004 1:59 Uhr +0200 Stefan H. Holek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zope tests fail for me, unfortunately Andreas cannot reproduce this.
The ZOPE_CONFIG patch was responsible for other failures. I reverted 
the
change
and check for a better solution by next week.

-aj

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Re: [Zope-dev] When is the configuration read in Zope 2.7?

2004-05-17 Thread Erik A . Dahl
Ok,
I think I have a fix for this but we have a little semantics issue.  I 
thought that once the Zope config was set it could not be changed.  In 
the new ZOPE_CONFIG patch the environ variable only gets used as a last 
resort in Zope.app() if no other configuration has been set.  To do 
this I added a isConfigured() function to App.config to check its 
_config global.  I'm assuming that this is the official Zope config, 
correct?

Now there is a test testZopeRunConfigure in 
lib/python/Zope/Startup/tests/testStarter.py that runs 
App.config.getConfiguration() and then makes a test config file and 
sets it.  The result is a test where the config is reset within one 
run.  This test fails with the semantics described above.  Which is 
correct?  I'm enclosing the patch for reference.

-EAD


ZOPE_CONFIG.patch
Description: Binary data

On May 17, 2004, at 12:20 PM, Erik A.Dahl wrote:
Things changed around a bit since I did this patch.  I'm trying to get 
a new one working but am having some issues with the 2.7 trunk in svn. 
 I think in general the startup sequence could use some clean up.  I'm 
working on mapping how it all works maybe that would help make it less 
opaque.

-EAD
On May 15, 2004, at 12:53 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
I think Fred might have some ideas about how to do the ZOPE_CONFIG
feature better if you can coax them out of him. ;-)
On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 03:56, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On Samstag, 15. Mai 2004 1:59 Uhr +0200 Stefan H. Holek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zope tests fail for me, unfortunately Andreas cannot reproduce this.
The ZOPE_CONFIG patch was responsible for other failures. I reverted 
the
change
and check for a better solution by next week.

-aj

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Re: [Zope-dev] manage_permission from script

2004-04-08 Thread Erik A . Dahl
Thanks for the suggestion but no joy here.  Here is the full trace...

Python 2.3.3 (#1, Jan 27 2004, 09:17:28)
[GCC 3.2 20020903 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import Zope
 app = Zope.app()
 app.testfolder
Folder instance at 410d9f50
 tf = app.testfolder
 tf.getPhysicalRoot().manage_permission(View, [Owner,])
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File stdin, line 1, in ?
  File /home/edahl/zope-2.7.0/lib/python/AccessControl/Role.py, line 
164, in manage_permission
for p in self.ac_inherited_permissions(1):
  File /home/edahl/zope-2.7.0/lib/python/AccessControl/Role.py, line 
82, in ac_inherited_permissions
for p in self._subobject_permissions():
  File /home/edahl/zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py, line 
212, in _subobject_permissions
return (Products.__ac_permissions__+
AttributeError: aq_acquire



On Apr 7, 2004, at 7:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For setting permission on the root application object, use
setPermissionDefault of SecurityInfo.
Eh, this only works for my own defined permissions. However I just 
tried
this from my product and it does what it supposed to do:
	
self.getPhysicalRoot().manage_permission('View', ['Owner'])

Sandor


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[Zope-dev] manage_permission from script

2004-04-07 Thread Erik A . Dahl
I'm trying to use manage_permission from a script against the root 
application object.  When I do I get the following error from 
ObjectManager.  This definitely works from within zope since I'm able 
to edit permissions from the ZMI.  I guess the app object returned from 
Zope.app() doesn't have an acquisition wrapper?

-EAD

 app.manage_permission(View, ['Owner',], 1)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File stdin, line 1, in ?
  File /home/edahl/zope-2.7.0/lib/python/AccessControl/Role.py, line 
164, in manage_permission
for p in self.ac_inherited_permissions(1):
  File /home/edahl/zope-2.7.0/lib/python/AccessControl/Role.py, line 
82, in ac_inherited_permissions
for p in self._subobject_permissions():
  File /home/edahl/zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py, line 
212, in _subobject_permissions
return (Products.__ac_permissions__+
AttributeError: aq_acquire

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: running test.py with instance_home products.

2004-03-02 Thread Erik A . Dahl
Or use this patch http://zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1233 that finds the 
config file via the environment variable  ZOPE_CONFIG during a normal 
import Zope; app=Zope.app() dance.

-EAD

On Mar 2, 2004, at 10:52 AM, Tres Seaver wrote:

Chris Withers wrote:
Chris McDonough wrote:
Has anyone found a reasonable strategy for using Zope's test.py to 
test
products that are installed outside the Zope software home?  I try
running it from the software home and using the --dir option to 
point it
to where my product is, but it tells me it can't find any tests.
I think I run test.py (or somethign similar) from a shell script in 
which I set the PRODUCTS_PATH environment variable, as well as 
INSTACNE_HOME and SOFTWARE_HOME.
How shoudl I be looking to do that in Zope 2.7? ;-)
test.py needs to grow a --config-file option;  if passed in, it should 
do the Zope.startup() dance with the passed file, e.g.::

--- 8 --
import Zope
import App.config
from Zope.Startup import handlers, options
def installConfigFileForTesting(config_file)
opts = options.ZopeOptions()
opts.realize(args=('-C', config_file))
handlers.handleConfig(opts.configroot, opts.confighandlers)
App.config.setConfiguration(opts.configroot)
Zope.startup()
--- 8 --
Tres.
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[Zope-dev] Understanding 2.7 Product import

2004-02-16 Thread Erik A . Dahl
Ok 2.7 has an instance/Products directory.  What magic is letting them 
be imported?  I'm running a bunch of data loader scripts that create 
persistent zope products.  I have found that:

import Globals

sets things up so that my data loader scripts can import products 
properly (even though their path is not in sys.path).  I looked around 
in Globals to figure out what's going on and didn't find it.  It would 
be nice if something in:

import Zope.

would kick off the special import magic!  It seems a lot more intuitive 
to have this at the top of the __main__ script instead of Globals.

-EAD

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Re: [Zope-dev] app = Zope.app() backwards incompatibility notice / discussion

2004-02-16 Thread Erik A . Dahl
Whatever happened to the ZOPE_CONFIG env idea?  What I have found is 
that I started putting

Zope.config(os.getenv(ZOPE_CONFIG))

in all my scripts.  Why can't his happen within Zope.app()?  Something 
like this.

*** lib/python/Zope/__init__.py.orig  2003-12-21 19:24:25.0 
-0500
--- lib/python/Zope/__init__.py 2004-02-16 14:15:48.0 -0500
***
*** 45,52 
--- 45,59 
  from Zope.App.startup import startup as _startup
  _startup()

+ from Zope.Startup.run import configure
+ class ZopeConfig(Exception):pass
+
  def app(*args, **kw):
  Utility for scripts to open a connection to the database
+ configfile = os.getenv(ZOPE_CONFIG)
+ if not configfile:
+ raise ZopeConfig, ERROR: ZOPE_CONFIG environment variable 
not found
+ configure(configfile)
  startup()
  return bobo_application(*args, **kw)

***
*** 56,62 
  import ZPublisher
  return ZPublisher.test('Zope', *args, **kw)
- from Zope.Startup.run import configure

  # Zope.App.startup.startup() sets the following variables in this 
module.
  DB = None
--- 63,68 

-EAD

On Dec 22, 2003, at 1:37 PM, Dieter Maurer wrote:

Chris McDonough wrote at 2003-12-21 18:16 -0500:
...
Will need to do this under 2.7b4+:
import Zope
Zope.configure('/path/to/configfile')
app = Zope.app()
...
Jim Roepke suggested that if an ZOPE_CONFIG envvar was set with the
config file path, that import Zope; Zope.app() could be made to 
just
work,
A very good suggestion!

but I'm not sure this is any better than requiring that
developers change their scripts.
For developpers, it is much better:

  Add an environment variable at one (or a few) central
  place versus change lots of scripts.
Guessing at the config file location
is also fraught with problems, and I'd be hesitant to do it.
The suggestion was to use the value of ZOPE_CONFIG as
config file path. Thus, you do not need to guess...
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[Zope-dev] Options problems with 2.7 and Zope.configure(/instance/etc/zope.conf)

2004-02-14 Thread Erik A . Dahl
I'm moving a bunch of scripts that do the import Zope, app=Zope.app() 
dance to 2.7.  I added the configure call and things were find until I 
ran a script that had positional arguments.  This gave me a ERROR: 
positional arguments are not supported.  This comes from 
zdoptions.py:226.  Basically zdoptions.py is parsing sys.argv.  I don't 
think it needs to do this from the Zope.configure call since it is 
getting the config from zope.conf.  We could prevent the sys.argv parse 
by passing changing lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py:39 to:

opts.realize(args=[], doc=Sorry, no option docs yet., 
raise_getopt_errs=0)

It looks like all that zdoptions.py is looking for in sys.argv is its 
configfile.  Since we passed this in to Zope.configure it doesn't seem 
nessesary.  Would this mess other stuff up?  I don't want zope parsing 
my script options!

-EAD

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Re: [Zope-dev] How to make Zope fail nicely under high load?

2004-02-12 Thread Erik A . Dahl
using the _v_ variables won't work for this since different threads 
won't agree on who was latest.  Its definitely a bad idea to do queries 
for these three data points.  What about putting them in the 
temp_folder then you can still use ZEO with a bunch of clients that 
will all share the same data but you don't need to write the values to 
disk every time they change.  Even putting them in a normal ZODB 
storage would be a _lot_ faster than doing a query.

-EAD

On Feb 12, 2004, at 8:19 AM, Bjorn Stabell wrote:

Toby wrote:
One of the optimization we're thinking of is storing results of
ZCatalog searches (e.g., number of replies to postings) in volatile
variables so we don't have to run the catalog search at all.  We'd
like to use memory space shared between threads for this.
Using ZEO would require us to store this in the ZODB.
Storing that in ZODB would be a bad idea. Theres no reason to
think that this cache would be faster than ZCatalog.
I dont see why you would be *required* to store in ZODB...
just dont share your cache between publisher threads on different
Zope instances.
(my apologies if this is obvious)
Okay, for example, since it's a BBS we need to have quick access to:

the latest poster
the latest posting
the latest registered member
All of these are complex queries (in the case of the latest registered
member it's not even a query but a brute-force search).  What I think
most ASP/PHP boards do is that they store these values in the database
instead of querying for them all the time.
Since many of these can be found through queries, they don't really 
need
persistent storage, but updates need to be seen by all threads; thus 
the
requirement for ZODB if we use ZEO, but the possibility to use (even
faster) shared memory if we don't use ZEO.

In effect we want to do something like this:

def getLatestPoster(self):
if not hasattr(self, '_v_latestPoster'):
self._v_latestPoster = whatever_query()
return self._v_latestPoster
return self._v_latestPoster
def setLatestPoster(self, poster):
self._v_latestPoster = poster
But instead of having thread-local variables we wanted to use Dieter
Maurer's SharedResource in order to share the cache between threads:
http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/SharedResource.html

Regards,
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[Zope-dev] Zope-2.6.3 issue with CMF-1.3.3 portal_types

2004-01-16 Thread Erik A . Dahl
I downloaded 2.6.3 to do some testing and found that with a totally 
generic CMF-1.3.3 there is an issue with opening properties of a portal 
type.  Here is the stack trace:

Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
  Module Products.CMFCore.utils, line 313, in manage_propertiesForm
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 261, in __call__
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 292, in _bindAndExec
  Module App.special_dtml, line 174, in _exec
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 703, in renderwob
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 76, in render
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval
   - __traceback_info__: select_variable
  Module string, line 0, in ?
AttributeError: min
I walked back up this stack but I can't say I quite get it.  Any body 
else?  Error is provoked just by licking on one of the type objects in 
portal_types of a newly created totally generic portal.

-EAD

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Re: [Zope-dev] app = Zope.app() backwards incompatibility notice / discussion

2003-12-22 Thread Erik A . Dahl
I do this dance a lot and this sounds fine to me.  I tried using 
zopectl run with my scripts but you couldn't pass parameters to the 
script (which lowered the usefulness for me).

-EAD

On Dec 21, 2003, at 6:16 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:

The extant import Zope; app = Zope.app() dance to get a hold of the
Zope root object stopped working long ago on the 2.7 branch and HEAD 
due
to the new configuration machinery, which implies that users be 
explicit
about configuration settings rather than allowing Zope to guess.

Up til now, the dance to get Zope 2.7 to start properly from within a
script was byzantine and obscure.  I've made a checkin which makes it a
little easier (or at least I'm about to as soon as the full unit test
suite comes back passed ;-).
Code which used to do:

 import Zope
 app = Zope.app()
Will need to do this under 2.7b4+:

 import Zope
 Zope.configure('/path/to/configfile')
 app = Zope.app()
(I wont bother telling you what the dance was for 2.7 before now, it 
was
pretty awful).

I realize this is suboptimal from a backwards compatibility 
perspective,
but I'm not sure how to make it any better, seeing as the config file
has some fairly important information in it (like which databases to
use) and guessing would be very bad in this context.

Jim Roepke suggested that if an ZOPE_CONFIG envvar was set with the
config file path, that import Zope; Zope.app() could be made to just
work, but I'm not sure this is any better than requiring that
developers change their scripts.  Guessing at the config file location
is also fraught with problems, and I'd be hesitant to do it.
I'm apt just to recommend that we require that developers add the
Zope.configure(filename) line to their scripts as opposed to doing
anything more magical.  I'm sure there will be indignant wails about 
it,
but c'est la vie. ;-)

Note that FWIW, you can also do (on UNIX):

  zopectl run scriptname

.. which will run a script with the name app set up as the root Zope
application object.  This might be the easiest way to run scripts which
need to operate against Zope objects going forward.
- C



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Re: [Zope-dev] Reminder: bug day tomorrow Oct 21

2003-10-20 Thread Erik A . Dahl
I'm getting close to needing to roll out an upgrade for a client site 
that will need to use python2.2 or .  I have zope-2.6.2 working with 
python2.2.3 but when I try and use python2.3.2 things don't go so well. 
 I'm wondering should I wait for 2.7 (and python2.3.2) or just go with 
what I have.  I would like to roll the upgrade next week (but I might 
be able to put it off for another week).

-EAD

On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 10:59  AM, Brian Lloyd wrote:

Hi all -

A quick reminder that we'll be having a bug day tomorrow
10/21 to try to knock out some remaining issues in the drive
to get a Zope 2.7 final out.
Hope to see you on #zope-bugday !

Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.2, Zeo 2.0.1b1 and python 2.2.3

2003-09-22 Thread Erik A . Dahl
I'm trying to get this combo working (I know its not officially 
supported).  It works fine except for when a second client updates zeo 
the changes aren't seen from the first client (until its restarted).  I 
ran the zeo tests with 2.2.3 and they all pass.  Zope 2.6.2 seems to 
work fine even with zeo when only one client is doing updates.  Where 
would I look to try and track down the problem (somewhere in the 
caching code?)  Is this even worth pursuing?  I have another library 
that I would like to use but it requires 2.2.3.

-EAD

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope.app() dance with 2.7

2003-08-14 Thread Erik A . Dahl
Chris,

I took the code from zopectl that is uses to do the debug thing and 
scripts now work.  Here is the code...

import os
if (os.environ.has_key('ZOPEVERSION') and
os.environ['ZOPEVERSION'] == '2.7'):
from Zope.Startup.options import ZopeOptions
from Zope.Startup import handlers as h
from App import config
opts=ZopeOptions()

opts.configfile=os.path.join(os.environ['ZOPE_HOME'],'etc/zope.conf')
opts.realize()
h.handleConfig(opts.configroot,opts.confighandlers)
config.setConfiguration(opts.configroot)
from Zope.Startup import dropPrivileges
dropPrivileges(opts.configroot)

You need to set ZOPEVERSION to 2.7 for it to work.  Is there a better 
way to figure out the current zope version?  It would be nice if the 
Zope module had a __version__ that you could check (or is there one 
somewhere else that I missed).

I'm running this against the code from cvs but I bet it would work with 
2.7.0b1

-EAD

On Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 12:18  PM, Chris Withers wrote:

Chris McDonough wrote:
You can use zopectl debug to do this.
What about when you're not debugging?

What about scripts that pump stuff into Zope and the like?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope-dev] __setattr__ and acquisition ( was RE: __getattr__and acquisition)

2002-06-05 Thread Erik A. Dahl

Yep.  This is a problem for me I'm trying to find something through 
acquisition in my __setattr__.  Self  is totally unwrapped.  Can anyone 
think of a creative solution?  aq_acquire doesn't help because self is 
not a wrapped object. :(  Can't pass in the object I want because the 
whole point of the setattr is to get around the function call.

-EAD

Shane Hathaway wrote:

 Nicholas Henke (by way of Nicholas Henke ) wrote:

 Given the following code:
  I can see why access to self.thing fails in Inner::__setattr__, but 
 the question is how do I do that -- can I not use __setattr__ and 
 have to use a setAttr that is accessed via O.I.setAttr('help','me 
 rhonda') ?


 Acquisition uses a subtle trick that makes everything work: the self 
 passed to most methods is actually an acquisition wrapper, rather than 
 the object itself.  But the self passed to certain methods like 
 __setattr__() is not wrapped.  I'm sure there's a good reason.

 HTH.

 Shane



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[Zope-dev] How to override __getattr__ and not break acquisition

2002-06-04 Thread Erik A. Dahl

Ok I need to override __getattr__ in one of my product classes.  I'm 
sure this is killing acquisition but not sure about the persistence 
stuff (I think this is working).  Is there a way to make this work? 
 Here is what I'm doing:

def __getattr__(self, name):
if name == 'myattr':
return self.myattr()


I assume that somewhere in the Acquisition code there is a __getattr__ 
but I can't find it.  I tried calling Implicit.__getattr__ but its not 
there.  If some one has an example that would be great.

-EAD



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