Re: [Zope-dev] Re: current best of breed ZEO for Zope 2.6.2 in production?

2003-10-03 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jeremy Hylton wrote at 2003-10-2 13:50 -0400:
 > ...
 > On the other hand, Jim asked me today how someone would navigate from
 > the zope.org home page to the current ZODB release.  I don't have any
 > idea.  Anyone else know?  I just use Google.

The W3C has quite a good scheme: a fixed URL always points to the 
current release.


Dieter

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: current best of breed ZEO for Zope 2.6.2 in production?

2003-10-02 Thread Magnus Heino
On Thursday 02 October 2003 19.50, Jeremy Hylton wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 13:34, Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote:
> > > I thought that was easy to miss, so I changed the heading from
> > >
> > > Zope Enterprise Objects
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > > Zope Enterprise Objects (OBSOLETE)
> >
> > And I still missed it! Amazing! it must've been the pre-lunch hunger or
> > something... Maybe you should use a blink tag and a red font tag inside a
> > one cell table with a thick border (/me runs from the HTML-standards
> > mob).
>
> Maybe we should just delete it.

Add a new release, version "obsolete" or something. People always get the 
latest release. Or add a meta refresh to redirect after 1s to the new page.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: current best of breed ZEO for Zope 2.6.2 in production?

2003-10-02 Thread Jeremy Hylton
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 13:34, Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote:
> > I thought that was easy to miss, so I changed the heading from 
> > 
> > Zope Enterprise Objects 
> > 
> > to 
> > 
> > Zope Enterprise Objects (OBSOLETE)
> 
> And I still missed it! Amazing! it must've been the pre-lunch hunger or 
> something... Maybe you should use a blink tag and a red font tag inside a 
> one cell table with a thick border (/me runs from the HTML-standards mob). 

Maybe we should just delete it.

On the other hand, Jim asked me today how someone would navigate from
the zope.org home page to the current ZODB release.  I don't have any
idea.  Anyone else know?  I just use Google.

> > It could probably use more text explaining what to do instead.  I'd do that
> > if I thought I knew .
> 
> Yes, that's exactly what I'm looking for: what is the current "blessed" 
> procedure for using ZEO with Zope? 

You can copy ZEO into lib/python or install ZODB into lib/python.

> The client will be using the binary Zope 2.6.2 package, BTW. 
> 
> I've (finally) read the ZODB page and it says Zope 2.6.2 doen't need a ZODB 
> surgery to use ZEO. This is good since I don't want to scare the client with 
> weird surgeries for a Production installation :-) (I'm mentoring them on the 
> installation, not installing it for them). 
> 
> Since we'll be using python-2.1.3, ZODB 3.2 isn't an option. Does ZODB 3.1.4 
> (the last ZODB release according to the ZODB3.1 page) fix the "one client 
> changes an object but the others don't see the change" bug reported here 
> recently? 

It does.  There are a few memory leaks and a potential deadlock bug that
are only fixed in ZODB 3.2, but the majority of the critical bugs were
fixed by 3.1.4.

> If yes, should I just copy over the ZEO package or do you guys still 
> recomend that I replace all of Zope262 ZODB with the standalone one? 

Either one is fine with me.

Jeremy



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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: current best of breed ZEO for Zope 2.6.2 in production?

2003-10-02 Thread Paul Winkler
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:34:58PM -0300, Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote:
> Since we'll be using python-2.1.3, ZODB 3.2 isn't an option. Does ZODB 
> 3.1.4 (the last ZODB release according to the ZODB3.1 page) fix the "one 
> client changes an object but the others don't see the change" bug reported 
> here recently? 

I haven't seen that bug since I installed ZEO from 3.1.2.
Presumably it's still fixed in 3.1.4 :-)

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[Zope-dev] Re: current best of breed ZEO for Zope 2.6.2 in production?

2003-10-02 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida
Tim Peters writes: 

* ZEO 2.0?
* any one of the ZEO releases at http://www.zope.org/Products/ZEO ?

All of the releases on this page, including 2.0, are obsolete.  It
says so at the top of the page.
I thought that was easy to miss, so I changed the heading from 

Zope Enterprise Objects 

to 

Zope Enterprise Objects (OBSOLETE)
And I still missed it! Amazing! it must've been the pre-lunch hunger or 
something... Maybe you should use a blink tag and a red font tag inside a 
one cell table with a thick border (/me runs from the HTML-standards mob). 

It could probably use more text explaining what to do instead.  I'd do that
if I thought I knew .
Yes, that's exactly what I'm looking for: what is the current "blessed" 
procedure for using ZEO with Zope? 

The client will be using the binary Zope 2.6.2 package, BTW. 

I've (finally) read the ZODB page and it says Zope 2.6.2 doen't need a ZODB 
surgery to use ZEO. This is good since I don't want to scare the client with 
weird surgeries for a Production installation :-) (I'm mentoring them on the 
installation, not installing it for them). 

Since we'll be using python-2.1.3, ZODB 3.2 isn't an option. Does ZODB 3.1.4 
(the last ZODB release according to the ZODB3.1 page) fix the "one client 
changes an object but the others don't see the change" bug reported here 
recently? 

If yes, should I just copy over the ZEO package or do you guys still 
recomend that I replace all of Zope262 ZODB with the standalone one? 

Cheers, Leo 

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