Re: [Zope-dev] MySQL : help !

2000-09-28 Thread Monty Taylor
I can send you one, but if building it is giving you lots of problems, you may have larger problems, and the _mysql I send may not really help. Building should be sort-of straight forward. What version of ZMysqlDA are you using? What version of Mysql? What errors are you getting? [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Zope-dev] I feel your Wiki Pain ;-)

2000-09-28 Thread Chris Withers
Toby Dickenson wrote: > >> How about running the 'Discussion' parts of (in particular) dev.zope.org > >> from ZDiscussions, ZUBB or Squishdot? > > > >This may be a good idea... > > What's wrong with a mailing list? Is this just a case of NIH? Setting up a mailing list for each proposal is painfu

Re: [Zope-dev] Email the changes

2000-09-28 Thread Chris Withers
Toby Dickenson wrote: > > The ability to subscribe for notification (above) and/or to track what > > you personally have seen, and not, is intended for this kind of thing. > > It would keep me happy if the notification includes a link to the new > content (rather than a link to the page that cont

Re: [Zope-dev] WikiDot

2000-09-28 Thread Chris Withers
Rik Hoekstra wrote: > maillists vs discussion platforms. This problem is caused by the > intermingling of too many different functions of a wiki. I'll go a bit > at length to expose these and try to strike a balance, which should be > in a combination (did I hear WikiDot?): Yes, well, that's the

Re: [Zope-dev] mailing list 'noise'

2000-09-28 Thread Chris Withers
Toby Dickenson wrote: > I dont see this as a problem: You only create a new list when the > traffic for that proposal gets too great for zope-dev. Threading is > good enough before that point. Yes, but zope-dev has a relatively high traffic load... Why should you have to put up with all that 'noi

Re: [Zope-dev] XHTML Templates comments from the peanut gallery

2000-09-28 Thread Chris Withers
(sorry I'm so late on this, things have been hectic :-( ) Paul Everitt wrote: > o Allow those presentation tools to work by having well-formed > markup (e.g. no separation into header and footer) Hmmm... I wonder how refactoring, which _header and _footer were really useful for, will hap

[Zope-dev] A few Questions

2000-09-28 Thread Keith Larson
Title: A few Questions Hello I just joined so sorry if you have answered these before or if it the right place to ask but : I have a 4 new sites in Zope that is mirrored on two servers and load balanced. A third server is for qa and editing in Zope. Now , is there a way to have a python s

Re: [Zope-dev] WikiDot

2000-09-28 Thread Ken Manheimer
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Chris Withers wrote: > > 4.Some people think Wiki discussions are easily dispersed. Bad Wiki > > discussions are, but discussion products are almost always dispersed by > > nature. On many occasions I have (already) seen people summarize and > > structure maillist discussions

Re: [Zope-dev] mailing list 'noise'

2000-09-28 Thread Ken Manheimer
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Chris Withers wrote: > Toby Dickenson wrote: > > I dont see this as a problem: You only create a new list when the > > traffic for that proposal gets too great for zope-dev. Threading is > > good enough before that point. > > Yes, but zope-dev has a relatively high traffic l

[Zope-dev] Namespace trouble

2000-09-28 Thread Martin Grönemeyer
Hello everyone, if've had little namespace problems with this code-snipped (dtml-method): This produces an output like this: 0,0,0,0,0,0,... The zero is the first index set by REQUEST.set... The running index isn't reflected into the current namespace. Why not ? It know it depend

Re: [Zope-dev] WikiDot

2000-09-28 Thread Chris Withers
Ken Manheimer wrote: > I don't think anyone disagrees that wiki pages as they stand are > imperfect for discussions. I strongly feel (with lots of experience) > that mailling lists are also flawed, sorta complementarily, for > getting definite results out of discussions. Both work with some > ef

[Zope-dev] 'REQUEST' lost on DTML rendering

2000-09-28 Thread Kent Polk
I have a Product which works fine under Zope 2.1.6 but am having trouble moving it to 2.2.1 This product creates temporary instances of objects and then uses __bobo_traverse__ to traverse class operators specified in the URL which create the objects that are rendered via DTML methods. The very f

[Zope-dev] XHTML Templates comments from the peanut gallery

2000-09-28 Thread Spicklemire, Jerry
>> Paul Everitt wrote: >> o Allow those presentation tools to work by having well-formed >> markup (e.g. no separation into header and footer) > to which Chris Withers replied: > Hmmm... I wonder how refactoring, which _header and _footer were really > useful for, will happen now... The

Re: [Zope-dev] WikiDot

2000-09-28 Thread Ken Manheimer
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Chris Withers wrote: > > These are the kinds of things i'm hoping to get at with WikiNG - a > > smart content widget, with two essential features - good impedence > > matching to authoring structured, linked content (structured text plus > > wiki refs), > > A lot of people I

Re: [Zope-dev] Email the changes

2000-09-28 Thread Ken Manheimer
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Chris Withers wrote: > > > The only quoting you need to know is example:: > > > > > > The two colons after the word "example" indicate that this contained > > > block is all quoted. > > How is a 'contained block' delimited? As i did in my example, by indentation. (This

[Zope-dev] some suggestion..

2000-09-28 Thread Christian Scholz
Hi! While trying to code some python Product I had the need for extending manage_delObjects in some Folderlike object. I simply want to call the the ObjectManager's version of it and then do my own stuff afterwards (like deleting some other dependant objects). Unfortunately when calling manage_d

[Zope-dev] zope2.2.2 - ZopeTime not available to users defined in acl_users belowthe root?the root?

2000-09-28 Thread ross
Here's a problem which bit me today. I'd delegated someone to manage a Yihaw directory. zope 2.2.2 source running on a sun. make a folder at the root (eg /foo) with an acl_user folder there define a new user in the foo acl_user folder (eg foobar) with manager/owner rights add a dtml method to vie

Re: [Zope-dev] zope2.2.2 - ZopeTime security thing

2000-09-28 Thread Chris Withers
ross wrote: > KeyError: (see above) > > Note, it's not unauthorised - it's just not in the namespace. IIRC, the new way for security errors like this to work is to throw a keyerror. So, it's probably a permissions problem manifesting itself as a KeyError. Try installing Shane Hathaway's ZDebug

Re: [Zope-dev] XHTML Templates comments from the peanut gallery

2000-09-28 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers writes: > > A **page** is the result of applying presentation to data in the > > object system. A page is a particular result of a URL when viewed > > under certain conditions. > > I'd like to add to this: > components used to make up 'page's should not be URL-visib

[Zope-dev] XHTML Templates comments from the peanut gallery

2000-09-28 Thread Spicklemire, Jerry
> >Chris Withers writes: > > A **page** is the result of applying presentation to data in the > > object system. A page is a particular result of a URL when viewed > > under certain conditions. > > I'd like to add to this: > components used to make up 'page's should not be URL-v

[Zope-dev] RE: XHTML Templates comments from the peanut gallery

2000-09-28 Thread Jay, Dylan
> However, the focus of the new Template architecture will be a new > format based on XHTML. This XHTML Template will be focused on > giving Site Designers round trip presentation authoring using the > dominant tools such as Dreamweaver. > > XHTML Templates will be complete, well-formed HTM

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog with UTF-8 Chinese

2000-09-28 Thread Zope mailing lists
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Sin Hang Kin wrote: > After reading some code of query, I think the regular expression operations > which in parse, quotes and parse2 were not safe for utf8 string. So, I That wouldn't surprise me. > decide to emulate what they do. However, I do not understand what getlexico

[Zope-dev] why cant i rename an object from an external method

2000-09-28 Thread Andy McKay
Heres a treat. I'm trying to write an external method to rename objects. I have approx 10,000 to rename so a script would be nice. No problem I thought, imitate a forms manage_renameObject and CopySupport.py can do the work. Rename works fine from the web form, but not from a script. (ASPNTools.g

Re: [Zope-dev] mailing list 'noise'

2000-09-28 Thread Karl Anderson
Ken Manheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Chris Withers wrote: > > > Toby Dickenson wrote: > > > I dont see this as a problem: You only create a new list when the > > > traffic for that proposal gets too great for zope-dev. Threading is > > > good enough before that point.

Re: [Zope-dev] I feel your Wiki Pain ;-)

2000-09-28 Thread Karl Anderson
Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think you could integrate both mailinglists and wikis. On the one > hand, often we'd like to preserve a good posting in a mailing list as > a wiki page. So we make a separate [EMAIL PROTECTED] address that's subscribed > to the mailing list, that ke

Re: [Zope-dev] why cant i rename an object from an external method

2000-09-28 Thread Shane Hathaway
Andy McKay wrote: > > Heres a treat. I'm trying to write an external method to rename objects. I > have approx 10,000 to rename so a script would be nice. No problem I > thought, imitate a forms manage_renameObject and CopySupport.py can do the > work. > > Rename works fine from the web form, bu