Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?

2002-10-31 Thread Chris Withers
Jeffrey P Shell wrote: But release often is a BITCH for software configuration management. Good for developers, bad for deployers. Why? Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross

Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?

2002-10-31 Thread Casey Duncan
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:32:59 -0700 Jeffrey P Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 04:22 AM, Chris Withers wrote: Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: It what world do you live, and can I move there? You miss the point ;-) The flurry to get features into a 'stable'

Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?

2002-10-30 Thread Chris Withers
Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: It what world do you live, and can I move there? You miss the point ;-) The flurry to get features into a 'stable' release is what I was on about. If you flurry, the release won't be stable. I like the pattern of having stable releases and CVS or nightly builds for

Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?

2002-10-30 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Chris Withers wrote: The flurry to get features into a 'stable' release is what I was on about. If you flurry, the release won't be stable. I like the pattern of having stable releases and CVS or nightly builds for people who want the latest and greatest. That way

Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?

2002-10-30 Thread Jeffrey P Shell
On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 04:22 AM, Chris Withers wrote: Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: It what world do you live, and can I move there? You miss the point ;-) The flurry to get features into a 'stable' release is what I was on about. If you flurry, the release won't be stable. I like

RE: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?

2002-10-30 Thread Brian Lloyd
Likewise, with Zope my impression is that once the Beta is cut, we are in feature freeze. Now, ZC may not have operated that way in the past *entirely*, but I think we should from now on. A flurry of commits *before* feature freeze seems unaviodable, however. That's what deadlines are

Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?

2002-10-29 Thread Chris Withers
Chris McDonough wrote: FWIW, the reason that there is a flurry of activity before any release is because people want to see features in a stable release version and by nature (IMHO) programmers are procrastinators. ;-) This doesn't fit with normal open source practice. Why are we starting to

Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?

2002-10-29 Thread Oliver Bleutgen
Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: It what world do you live, and can I move there? Every large open source project I've particpated in or kept track of has had this problem - it's _really hard_ to turn down cool new patches just because your supposed to be in feature freeze, trying to get a stable

Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?

2002-10-29 Thread Dieter Maurer
Oliver Bleutgen writes: ... What do _you_ think 'normal open source practice' is? FWIW, see as an example http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.0-release-plan.html and/or http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.2-features.html Seems to work