Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting
On 2010-4-16 17:34, Christian Theune wrote: > On 04/16/2010 05:18 PM, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: >> I've attached the output of pdftotext (from xpdf-utils on a debian >> system) Seems pretty clean to me. Long lines aren't wrapped (a quick >> pass through fmt seems to do little damage, though: attached as well). >> >> I'm a great fan of the IRC meetings and the notes, by the way: any tool >> that helps you get these done is a good thing. However, text is so much >> more flexible for these reports to the list: the followup quoting issue >> alone is a big one. > > Yeah, I looked through the pdftotext output earlier today as well and > figured that I can probably get away with it and a little automated > cleanup. I'll try that the next time. Thank you both! W. -- Wichert AkkermanIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting
Hi, On 04/16/2010 05:18 PM, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:31:32PM +0200, Christian Theune wrote: >> On 04/15/2010 11:27 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: >>> On 2010-4-15 17:59, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, here's the minutes. As I've been adventurous, I'll add a few comments: * I've started diving into the matter of how to manage items that we park/defer/postpone/wait for and thus started using an online system. (The only one I was able to find anyway.) * The output is a PDF which is currently a bit messy as I wanted to get rid of my text files that had the open issues sitting in there and thus had to add all of them to our agenda on Tuesday and then defer them. I think next week will become less noisy. >>> >>> Will next week be text again? >> >> Probably not - the system currently only allows for PDF output, but I've >> mailed them a question about getting plain text. > > I've attached the output of pdftotext (from xpdf-utils on a debian > system) Seems pretty clean to me. Long lines aren't wrapped (a quick > pass through fmt seems to do little damage, though: attached as well). > > I'm a great fan of the IRC meetings and the notes, by the way: any tool > that helps you get these done is a good thing. However, text is so much > more flexible for these reports to the list: the followup quoting issue > alone is a big one. Yeah, I looked through the pdftotext output earlier today as well and figured that I can probably get away with it and a little automated cleanup. I'll try that the next time. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:31:32PM +0200, Christian Theune wrote: > On 04/15/2010 11:27 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > On 2010-4-15 17:59, Christian Theune wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> here's the minutes. As I've been adventurous, I'll add a few comments: > >> > >> * I've started diving into the matter of how to manage items that we > >> park/defer/postpone/wait for and thus started using an online system. > >> (The only one I was able to find anyway.) > >> > >> * The output is a PDF which is currently a bit messy as I wanted to get > >> rid of my text files that had the open issues sitting in there and > >> thus had to add all of them to our agenda on Tuesday and then defer > >> them. I think next week will become less noisy. > > > > Will next week be text again? > > Probably not - the system currently only allows for PDF output, but I've > mailed them a question about getting plain text. I've attached the output of pdftotext (from xpdf-utils on a debian system) Seems pretty clean to me. Long lines aren't wrapped (a quick pass through fmt seems to do little damage, though: attached as well). I'm a great fan of the IRC meetings and the notes, by the way: any tool that helps you get these done is a good thing. However, text is so much more flexible for these reports to the list: the followup quoting issue alone is a big one. Ross -- Ross Reedstrom, Ph.D. reeds...@rice.edu Systems Engineer & Admin, Research Scientistphone: 713-348-6166 The Connexions Project http://cnx.orgfax: 713-348-3665 Rice University MS-375, Houston, TX 77005 GPG Key fingerprint = F023 82C8 9B0E 2CC6 0D8E F888 D3AE 810E 88F0 BEDE Zope Developers Meeting date: Location: Purpose/Notes: Chaired by: Minutes rec. by: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 from 3:00 PM to 3:30 PM irc://#zope Regular scheduled meeting Christian Theune Christian Theune Attendance: Present: Christian Theune Regrets: Absent: Late: Guests: (none) Meeting Documents: (no documents) Meeting Minutes: 1. Committee business Christian Theune Discussion about the KGS 3.4.1 was included into the agenda by request of Adam Groszer. 1.1. Review Agenda Launchpad bug management issues were included into the agenda by request of Tres Seaver. Item Status: Completed 2. Old business 2.1. Upcoming bug day Announcements have been send out to zope-dev, although there hasn't been much feedback. Tres reported having had a mini-bugdy by himself in between and that he has been experimenting with using bzr (and other DVCS') against the SVN server to allow others more easily to contribute without having to directly sign an agreement. Some documentation about this is available here: http://svn.repoze.org/docs/repoze/HACKING.rst Adam reported he'd be available for mentoring the bug day as did Christian Theune. Tres' will be around for at least part of the day. Otherwise we'll wait for the bug day to come. Item Status: Completed 2.2. Resurrecting "sprint schedule" page Adam Groszer wondered whether we can have something that makes upcoming sprints more visible to developers. We decided to merge this topic into the next item (General calendar). Item Status: Completed 2.3. Calendar for Zope-related events We'd like to see a general calendar that includes all kinds of Zope-related events (Sprints, Conferences, ...). As Jan Smith (VP Zope Foundation) is already working on a proposal for a general calendar we decided to Page 1 of 3 Printed: 4/15/2010 wait for her until after the next ZF board meeting. Item Status: Deferred: 4/30/2010 2.4. Test runners/nightly builds We haven't had input on this topic itself. (Personally having a "how are we doing?" status check every now and then would be nice). Item Status: Parked 2.4.1. List of projects/platforms/... for guaranteed builds We need to define the combinations of projects/platforms/Python versions etc. that we want to give a guarantee that our builds work. Adam Groszer recommended including Windows 64 into the list of platforms. Item Status: Parked 2.5. Restructuring the LP packages/bug trackers Tres' asked to stop using a single central bug tracker but split of bug tracking so that each ZTK package has its own bug tracker on LP. One of the problems of the current situation is that we get bug reports at inappropriate places. We already discussed this before but were uncomfortable with doing this right away and intended to temporarily use a central bug tracker for ZTK and then splitting of. Also, there was previous work by Christian Theune from last EuroPython where he started to create projects but got caught up in details and didn't finish. Tres' proposed to assist with the transition and Christian Theune offered to help as well. They intend to do the cleanup and start triaging before the upcoming bug day. In case of hitting stumbling blocks we'll ask Sidnei and Gary for help as they're part of the LP team. Item Status: Deferred: 4/27/2010 2.6. Release KGS
Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting
On 04/15/2010 11:27 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > On 2010-4-15 17:59, Christian Theune wrote: >> Hi, >> >> here's the minutes. As I've been adventurous, I'll add a few comments: >> >> * I've started diving into the matter of how to manage items that we >> park/defer/postpone/wait for and thus started using an online system. >> (The only one I was able to find anyway.) >> >> * The output is a PDF which is currently a bit messy as I wanted to get >> rid of my text files that had the open issues sitting in there and >> thus had to add all of them to our agenda on Tuesday and then defer >> them. I think next week will become less noisy. > > Will next week be text again? Probably not - the system currently only allows for PDF output, but I've mailed them a question about getting plain text. Something I think will happen next week is that the noisy irrelevant items will appear neither on the agenda nor the minutes. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting
On 04/15/2010 10:44 PM, Christophe Combelles wrote: > Christian Theune a écrit : >> Hi, > > Hi thanks for the minutes! >> >> here's the minutes. As I've been adventurous, I'll add a few comments: >> >> * I've started diving into the matter of how to manage items that we >>park/defer/postpone/wait for and thus started using an online system. >>(The only one I was able to find anyway.) > > which online system are you talking about? mycommittee.com -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting
On 2010-4-15 17:59, Christian Theune wrote: > Hi, > > here's the minutes. As I've been adventurous, I'll add a few comments: > > * I've started diving into the matter of how to manage items that we > park/defer/postpone/wait for and thus started using an online system. > (The only one I was able to find anyway.) > > * The output is a PDF which is currently a bit messy as I wanted to get > rid of my text files that had the open issues sitting in there and > thus had to add all of them to our agenda on Tuesday and then defer > them. I think next week will become less noisy. Will next week be text again? Wichert. -- Wichert AkkermanIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting
Christian Theune a écrit : > Hi, Hi thanks for the minutes! > > here's the minutes. As I've been adventurous, I'll add a few comments: > > * I've started diving into the matter of how to manage items that we > park/defer/postpone/wait for and thus started using an online system. > (The only one I was able to find anyway.) which online system are you talking about? > > * The output is a PDF which is currently a bit messy as I wanted to get > rid of my text files that had the open issues sitting in there and > thus had to add all of them to our agenda on Tuesday and then defer > them. I think next week will become less noisy. > > * In general I can give access to stuff there to more people. I'll > probably add those of you that step up for some tasks so I can mark > the assignments appropriately. > > I hope this helps, at least I have the feeling it helps me stay > organized and thus take less time in the future to write up the agendas > and minutes. > > Christian > > > > > ___ > Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting
Hi, here's the minutes. As I've been adventurous, I'll add a few comments: * I've started diving into the matter of how to manage items that we park/defer/postpone/wait for and thus started using an online system. (The only one I was able to find anyway.) * The output is a PDF which is currently a bit messy as I wanted to get rid of my text files that had the open issues sitting in there and thus had to add all of them to our agenda on Tuesday and then defer them. I think next week will become less noisy. * In general I can give access to stuff there to more people. I'll probably add those of you that step up for some tasks so I can mark the assignments appropriately. I hope this helps, at least I have the feeling it helps me stay organized and thus take less time in the future to write up the agendas and minutes. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development 2010 (15).pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )