Re: [Zope-dev] Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad

2007-08-13 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 13. August 2007 13:03:59 -0400 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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--On 12. August 2007 19:53:57 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi,

to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to
Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on LP
we should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections?



One could also move the CMF bugtracker to LP at the same time. Then only
the APE and the PAS trackers would remain. The PAS tracker is already
empty and the APE tracker is also pretty much obsolete and contains only
a few items.


And there is also the zope.org website tracker which could be migrated.
The guys from Canonical suggested also to migrate all these trackers
in one run.


I would prefer to do this only if it is possible to have old collector
URLs redirected automagically to the corresponding launchpad URL:  there
are too many changelog entries, etc., which refer to the current
collector URLs.




There is already a redirection mechanism for the old Zope 3 bugtracker in 
place.


"""

One question came to today: we must have some redirection mechanism
on zope.org for redirecting URls referring tickets in the old system to 

the

new tickets numbers within LP. We could get some mapping old-ticket-number
-> new-ticket-number as a result from the migration?


I was planning on using the same system as we used for the Zope 3 import.

Launchpad allows a "nickname" to be assigned to each bug report.  For
the Zope 3 bugs, we assigned "zope3dev-NNN" where NNN was the old bug
number.  Browsing to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/zope3dev-NNN
takes the user to the appropriate Zope bug.  Jim then set up Apache
rewrite rules on www.zope.org to redirect the old bug URLs to
Launchpad using the nicknames.

The same will be done for your bug import, so it should be a simple
matter of copying and adjusting the existing rewrite rules on
www.zope.org to handle Zope 2 bugs too.
"""


Andreas

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Re: [Zope-dev] Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad

2007-08-13 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 13. August 2007 13:03:59 -0400 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



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--On 13. August 2007 07:27:01 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



--On 12. August 2007 19:53:57 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


Hi,

to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to
Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on LP
we should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections?



One could also move the CMF bugtracker to LP at the same time. Then only
the APE and the PAS trackers would remain. The PAS tracker is already
empty and the APE tracker is also pretty much obsolete and contains only
a few items.


And there is also the zope.org website tracker which could be migrated.
The guys from Canonical suggested also to migrate all these trackers
in one run.


I would prefer to do this only if it is possible to have old collector
URLs redirected automagically to the corresponding launchpad URL:  there
are too many changelog entries, etc., which refer to the current
collector URLs.

It should be possible to do this with some kind of traversal hook.



I'll ask the LP guys if it is possible getting a mapping old-ticket-number 
-> new-ticket-number after the migration process.  However this won't solve 
the lookup problem with someone with an old ticket number goes directly

to LP and searches there by the old number..this will fail.

Andreas

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Re: [Zope-dev] Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad

2007-08-13 Thread Tres Seaver
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Andreas Jung wrote:
> 
> --On 13. August 2007 07:27:01 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>
>> --On 12. August 2007 19:53:57 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to
>>> Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on LP
>>> we should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections?
>>>
>>>
>> One could also move the CMF bugtracker to LP at the same time. Then only
>> the APE and the PAS trackers would remain. The PAS tracker is already
>> empty and the APE tracker is also pretty much obsolete and contains only
>> a few items.
> 
> And there is also the zope.org website tracker which could be migrated.
> The guys from Canonical suggested also to migrate all these trackers
> in one run.

I would prefer to do this only if it is possible to have old collector
URLs redirected automagically to the corresponding launchpad URL:  there
are too many changelog entries, etc., which refer to the current
collector URLs.

It should be possible to do this with some kind of traversal hook.


Tres.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad

2007-08-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

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On 13 Aug 2007, at 09:11, Andreas Jung wrote:

Slow down...  speaking for the CMF and PAS collectors:

I'm -0.5 on both since I actively use them and I have no  
experience at
all with Launchpad. The other responsible people sit on the CMF  
list so

you or I need to ask them there.


Right. You have to decide of course yourself.

But it would be nice for having one bugtracking system with one  
user base in one place. The UI of the collectors on plone.org just  
sucks - I am not talking of developers but of people submitting  
bugs. Launchpad just provides a clean UI for this purpose.


I've put the question to the CMF list. Is there and deadline when you  
need a decision?


For the PAS collector I don't mind the move, there's very few  
developers actively using it (including me), and it would be a "soft"  
entry into Launchpad for me ;)


jens



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Re: [Zope-dev] Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad

2007-08-13 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 13. August 2007 08:53:01 +0200 Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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On 13 Aug 2007, at 08:04, Andreas Jung wrote:


to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to
Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success
on LP
we should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections?




One could also move the CMF bugtracker to LP at the same time.
Then only
the APE and the PAS trackers would remain. The PAS tracker is already
empty and the APE tracker is also pretty much obsolete and
contains only
a few items.


And there is also the zope.org website tracker which could be
migrated.
The guys from Canonical suggested also to migrate all these trackers
in one run.


Slow down...  speaking for the CMF and PAS collectors:

I'm -0.5 on both since I actively use them and I have no experience at
all with Launchpad. The other responsible people sit on the CMF list so
you or I need to ask them there.


Right. You have to decide of course yourself.

But it would be nice for having one bugtracking system with one user base 
in one place. The UI of the collectors on plone.org just sucks - I am not 
talking of developers but of people submitting bugs. Launchpad just 
provides a clean UI for this purpose.


Andreas



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Re: [Zope-dev] Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad

2007-08-12 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

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On 13 Aug 2007, at 08:04, Andreas Jung wrote:


to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to
Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success  
on LP

we should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections?




One could also move the CMF bugtracker to LP at the same time.  
Then only

the APE and the PAS trackers would remain. The PAS tracker is already
empty and the APE tracker is also pretty much obsolete and  
contains only

a few items.


And there is also the zope.org website tracker which could be  
migrated.

The guys from Canonical suggested also to migrate all these trackers
in one run.


Slow down...  speaking for the CMF and PAS collectors:

I'm -0.5 on both since I actively use them and I have no experience  
at all with Launchpad. The other responsible people sit on the CMF  
list so you or I need to ask them there.


Personally I don't see any big benefit. The existing collectors have  
served us reasonably well.


jens


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Re: [Zope-dev] Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad

2007-08-12 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 13. August 2007 07:27:01 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




--On 12. August 2007 19:53:57 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to
Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on LP
we should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections?




One could also move the CMF bugtracker to LP at the same time. Then only
the APE and the PAS trackers would remain. The PAS tracker is already
empty and the APE tracker is also pretty much obsolete and contains only
a few items.


And there is also the zope.org website tracker which could be migrated.
The guys from Canonical suggested also to migrate all these trackers
in one run.

Andreas



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Re: [Zope-dev] Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad

2007-08-12 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 12. August 2007 19:53:57 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to
Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on LP we
should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections?




One could also move the CMF bugtracker to LP at the same time. Then only
the APE and the PAS trackers would remain. The PAS tracker is already empty 
and the APE tracker is also pretty much obsolete and contains only a few 
items.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad

2007-08-12 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 12. August 2007 19:53:57 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to
Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on LP we
should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections?




Since I don't expect strong objections :-) I'll proceed and talk to the 
Canonical guys (already talked to Steve Alexander) in order to get the 
tracker migrated.


Andreas

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Re: [Zope-dev] Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad

2007-08-12 Thread Martijn Pieters
On 8/12/07, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to
> Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on LP we
> should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections?

+1

I do wish LP gave a bit more context in their emails though; today
Christian Thuene cleaned up the Z3 bugtracker and I couldn't tell from
any of the many bug emails if any related to bugs I cared about. I'll
have to file a LP feature-request, I guess.

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[Zope-dev] Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad

2007-08-12 Thread Andreas Jung

Hi,

to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to
Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on LP we
should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections?

Andreas


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