Re: [Zope-dev] Re: On with the show....

2003-12-15 Thread Tres Seaver
On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 11:51, Casey Duncan wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:02:58 -0600
> Evan Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Sidnei da Silva wrote:
> > > If you look at FSPageTemplate, its obvious that it doesn't subclass
> > > ZopePageTemplate, but the solution is not so obvious. Using:
> > > 
> > > pt_getContext = ZopePageTemplate.pt_getContext.im_func
> > 
> > Wow, FSPageTemplate is lousy with this sort of thing, isn't it?  I'd 
> > have spelled it ZopePageTemplate.__dict__['pt_getContext'], but your 
> > code works out to the same thing.  I don't endorse this sort of 
> > cross-tree method copying, but if we're going to do it on this scale, at 
> > least we can make it tidier.  Before the Globals.InitializeClass:
> > 
> > zpd = ZopePageTemplate.__dict__
> > for m in ('func_code', '_default_bindings', 'manage_FTPget',
> >'get_size', 'PrincipiaSearchSource', 'document_src',
> >'pt_getContext', 'ZScriptHTML_tryParams'):
> >setattr(FSPageTemplate, m, zpd[m])
> > 
> > > A similar error also happened with FSImage.__str__ (which is assigned
> > > Image.__str__, but FSImage just subclasses FSObject).
> > > 
> > > Any thought on those?
> > 
> > Yep -- it seems very silly to copy a one-line method like that.
> 
> Smells like a broken class hierarchy to me. I really think we need to
> consider refactoring the code so this sort of sillyness isn't necessary.

While we are at it, we need to refactor the "core" bits of ZPT
(expressions, PageTemplateFile, etc.) out of 'Products.PageTemplates'
and into a better "top-level" pacakge.  People are beginning to use PTF
for ZMI, which shouldn't break in the absence of a product.

Tres.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: On with the show....

2003-12-15 Thread Casey Duncan
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:02:58 -0600
Evan Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sidnei da Silva wrote:
> > If you look at FSPageTemplate, its obvious that it doesn't subclass
> > ZopePageTemplate, but the solution is not so obvious. Using:
> > 
> > pt_getContext = ZopePageTemplate.pt_getContext.im_func
> 
> Wow, FSPageTemplate is lousy with this sort of thing, isn't it?  I'd 
> have spelled it ZopePageTemplate.__dict__['pt_getContext'], but your 
> code works out to the same thing.  I don't endorse this sort of 
> cross-tree method copying, but if we're going to do it on this scale, at 
> least we can make it tidier.  Before the Globals.InitializeClass:
> 
> zpd = ZopePageTemplate.__dict__
> for m in ('func_code', '_default_bindings', 'manage_FTPget',
>'get_size', 'PrincipiaSearchSource', 'document_src',
>'pt_getContext', 'ZScriptHTML_tryParams'):
>setattr(FSPageTemplate, m, zpd[m])
> 
> > A similar error also happened with FSImage.__str__ (which is assigned
> > Image.__str__, but FSImage just subclasses FSObject).
> > 
> > Any thought on those?
> 
> Yep -- it seems very silly to copy a one-line method like that.

Smells like a broken class hierarchy to me. I really think we need to consider 
refactoring the code so this sort of sillyness isn't necessary.

-Casey

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[Zope-dev] Re: On with the show....

2003-12-15 Thread Yuppie
Sidnei da Silva wrote:
Yep. Sorry for not having checked CMF Head. BTW, Yuppie, can we get a
1.5 soon?
Maybe [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a better place for questions like that?

Today Tres Seaver wrote:
BTW, I plan to post a draft roadmap for CMF 1.5 soon (today, I hope),
and to ask for feedback.
Yuppie



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[Zope-dev] Re: On with the show....

2003-12-15 Thread Evan Simpson
Sidnei da Silva wrote:
If you look at FSPageTemplate, its obvious that it doesn't subclass
ZopePageTemplate, but the solution is not so obvious. Using:
pt_getContext = ZopePageTemplate.pt_getContext.im_func
Wow, FSPageTemplate is lousy with this sort of thing, isn't it?  I'd 
have spelled it ZopePageTemplate.__dict__['pt_getContext'], but your 
code works out to the same thing.  I don't endorse this sort of 
cross-tree method copying, but if we're going to do it on this scale, at 
least we can make it tidier.  Before the Globals.InitializeClass:

zpd = ZopePageTemplate.__dict__
for m in ('func_code', '_default_bindings', 'manage_FTPget',
  'get_size', 'PrincipiaSearchSource', 'document_src',
  'pt_getContext', 'ZScriptHTML_tryParams'):
  setattr(FSPageTemplate, m, zpd[m])
A similar error also happened with FSImage.__str__ (which is assigned
Image.__str__, but FSImage just subclasses FSObject).
Any thought on those?
Yep -- it seems very silly to copy a one-line method like that.

Cheers,

Evan @ 4-am



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[Zope-dev] Re: On with the show....

2003-12-15 Thread Yuppie
Hi Sidnei!

Sidnei da Silva wrote:
So, it seems Chris McDonough figured out what we couldn't *wink*. Now,
it seems like Zope HEAD boots fine with an old Data.fs, and I could
even get a Plone 1.0 site migrated to Plone 2.0 and CMF 1.4 (a small
problem on DCWorkflow, but I checked in a fix).
Maybe you should have a look at CMF HEAD and either test with HEAD or 
backport some fixes.

pt_getContext = ZopePageTemplate.pt_getContext.im_func

Seemed to work, though I'm almost sure that is not the Right Thing (tm).
Why? Based on Dieter's patches I fixed HEAD this way and it looks ok to 
me. I guess the Right Thing would be refactoring the classes so we can 
inherit these methods, but even if we change Zope now CMF would need the 
old code for a long time for backwards compatibility.

A similar error also happened with FSImage.__str__ (which is assigned
Image.__str__, but FSImage just subclasses FSObject).
Any thought on those?
Same as above. What I'm missing is an easy way to find *all* of them.

AFAICT, there's nothing wrong with DiscussionItemContainer. It has
been InitializeClass()'ed and has a docstring. Setting
__allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ = 1 works, but that is
obviously wrong. 

Ideas?
No idea so far. The others didn't have a docstring.

Cheers,
Yuppie


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