Re: [Zope-dev] Re: weak examples, weak exploits
Evan Simpson wrote: Casey Duncan wrote: I would be in favor of making the Examples opt-in like the Zope tutorial. It seems silly to have it in evey ZODB by default. Make people add it if they want it. This seems like a fine idea, but what action would the user take to install examples and extras? I think the best way would be using a python script/Makefile that installs a .zexp file (or use http-upload with httplib). Configure should grow a --install-tutorial option. Pieter -- http://zwiki.org/PieterB ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: weak examples, weak exploits
PieterB wrote: Evan Simpson wrote: Casey Duncan wrote: I would be in favor of making the Examples opt-in like the Zope tutorial. It seems silly to have it in evey ZODB by default. Make people add it if they want it. This seems like a fine idea, but what action would the user take to install examples and extras? I think the best way would be using a python script/Makefile that installs a .zexp file (or use http-upload with httplib). Configure should grow a --install-tutorial option. Mmmm... I need to clarify my question. Let's say you make and install Zope. You fire it up and don't know what to do next. You look for some button or control in the UI for displaying documentation and examples. What do you find? An entry in the add list? Will you still find the help link, but clicking it only tells you how to install the documentation? Zope needs to help the user find the docs. Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: weak examples, weak exploits
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 10:09, Shane Hathaway wrote: PieterB wrote: Evan Simpson wrote: Casey Duncan wrote: I would be in favor of making the Examples opt-in like the Zope tutorial. It seems silly to have it in evey ZODB by default. Make people add it if they want it. This seems like a fine idea, but what action would the user take to install examples and extras? I think the best way would be using a python script/Makefile that installs a .zexp file (or use http-upload with httplib). Configure should grow a --install-tutorial option. Mmmm... I need to clarify my question. Let's say you make and install Zope. You fire it up and don't know what to do next. You look for some button or control in the UI for displaying documentation and examples. What do you find? An entry in the add list? Will you still find the help link, but clicking it only tells you how to install the documentation? Zope needs to help the user find the docs. Jamie Heilman came up with a reasonable way to do this. The Zope Quick Start page instructs the user to import the examples and gives him a link which does so by calling manage_import. I've merged this into the HEAD and the 2.6 branch. - C ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: weak examples, weak exploits
Shane Hathaway wrote: This seems like a fine idea, but what action would the user take to install examples and extras? In my initial implementation, there was a separate page that listed the names and descriptions of the various examples, with links to install them. If I recall correctly, this page was reached from a link on Folder views, much like the current Help link. Also linking from the Quick Start sounds like a fine idea. Cheers, Evan @ 4-am ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: weak examples, weak exploits
Casey Duncan wrote: I would be in favor of making the Examples opt-in like the Zope tutorial. It seems silly to have it in evey ZODB by default. Make people add it if they want it. Many, many moons ago I created evan-examples-branch, which allows individual Products to offer sample code without (magically or otherwise) forcing them upon the user. I'd love to see it revived, perhaps as Examples/Optional Extras in order to cover the Hurt system as well. The basic idea is to look for an XML manifest file 'examples/index.xml' in each Product. It probably wouldn't be very hard to use ZConfig instead of XML. Here is the PageTemplates index.xml: example name=Assorted Examples description This is a set of examples of the use of page templates. It includes examples of batching, macros, and trees. /description payload import file=zpt_examples.zexp/ /payload view url=zpt_examples/ /example !-- This file can contain any number of examples. Each one consists of an example with a 'name' attribute, containing exactly one description. The name and description are displayed in the Examples page. description can have a 'format' attribute set to 'plain' (the default), 'stx' (structured text), or 'html'. An example can contain payload elements. Each payload can contain any number of import, execute, and call elements. These are processed in order when an example is selected from the Examples page. import must have a 'file' attribute that names a file in the 'examples' directory to be imported. execute must have a 'file' attribute that names a file to be run with execfile. call must have a 'path' attribute that gives the path to a Zope object to be called. An example can contain at most one view element. The 'url' attribute of a view is the URL to view after all payload elements have been processed. This URL can be relative to the current folder. -- Cheers, Evan @ 4-am ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
