Re: [Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-18 Thread Martijn Faassen
Christian Theune wrote:
> On 09/18/2009 02:04 PM, Stephan Richter wrote:
>> On Friday 18 September 2009, Christian Theune wrote:
 I've also taken the liberty to update the ZTK policy to say that this
 should be done. (other steering group members can call me back if they
 don't like this policy change :)
>>> I'm happy with that change, except that it might be worthwhile to
>>> announce policy changes in a separate thread.
>> Sounds good to me too, but I think the setup.py file is sufficient.
> 
> I'm not sure I understand your comment correctly. The setup.py doesn't
> generally need touching.

I think there was some misunderstanding. I understood Christian to mean 
I shouldn't announce ZTK policy changes hidden in some thread. If there 
is new/changed policy we should announce it in a new thread so that 
people can pick up on it.

I'm not sure we can *always* do this. For instance, I just edited the 
guidelines for when a package should be in the ZTK or not slightly, but 
it's not really a major policy change. I hope the SVN changelog is 
enough for this.

Regards,

Martijn

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Re: [Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-18 Thread Christian Theune
On 09/18/2009 09:21 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> Christian Theune wrote:
>> I'm happy with that change, except that it might be worthwhile to
>> announce policy changes in a separate thread.
> 
> Good point. I'll do that in the future; please remind again if it 
> doesn't happen.

I'll try to.  I'll record that in the documentation about decisions.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-18 Thread Christian Theune
On 09/18/2009 02:04 PM, Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Friday 18 September 2009, Christian Theune wrote:
>>> I've also taken the liberty to update the ZTK policy to say that this
>>> should be done. (other steering group members can call me back if they
>>> don't like this policy change :)
>>
>> I'm happy with that change, except that it might be worthwhile to
>> announce policy changes in a separate thread.
> 
> Sounds good to me too, but I think the setup.py file is sufficient.

I'm not sure I understand your comment correctly. The setup.py doesn't
generally need touching.

My goal is to keep developers updated on changing policies. Whereas the
setup.py change is a one-time thing that allows developers to identify
which policy set is valid for a given package.

Christian

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Re: [Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-18 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 18 September 2009, Christian Theune wrote:
> > I've also taken the liberty to update the ZTK policy to say that this
> > should be done. (other steering group members can call me back if they
> > don't like this policy change :)
>
> I'm happy with that change, except that it might be worthwhile to
> announce policy changes in a separate thread.

Sounds good to me too, but I think the setup.py file is sufficient.

Regards,
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Re: [Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-18 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there,

Christian Theune wrote:
> I'm happy with that change, except that it might be worthwhile to
> announce policy changes in a separate thread.

Good point. I'll do that in the future; please remind again if it 
doesn't happen.

Regards,

Martijn

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[Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-17 Thread Christian Theune
On 09/11/2009 05:58 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Fred Drake wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Martijn Faassen  
>> wrote:
>>> So, could you please follow this policy for ZTK packages in SVN?
>>
>> I suspect it would help if packages that are part of the ZTK have that
>> indicated somewhere convenient, like near where the version number is
>> specified in the setup.py file.  Possibly with a link to the ZTK
>> release policies.
>>
>> When making changes, we're often considering the relevant packages in
>> isolation or in the context of our own applications, so a pointer to
>> additional policies that apply is helpful.
> 
> That's a good idea.
> 
> The extreme version of this reminder would to mark it in a lot of places 
> in the package - in every python file and in setup.py near the version 
> and near the dependencies listing and every aspect that could possibly 
> be affected by ZTK policy. That is unworkable.
> 
> I figured a reference to the ZTK policies on the top of the setup.py 
> would be enough to remind people.
> 
> I've just committed these changes.
> 
> I've also taken the liberty to update the ZTK policy to say that this 
> should be done. (other steering group members can call me back if they 
> don't like this policy change :)

I'm happy with that change, except that it might be worthwhile to
announce policy changes in a separate thread.

Christian

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