Re: [Zope-dev] weird release of transaction module
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Laurence Rowe wrote: >> Hanno Schlichting wrote: >>> Martijn Faassen wrote: I just looked at the PyPI page of 'transaction': http://pypi.python.org/pypi/transaction And I see some weirdnesses: * it's called 'transaction 1.0a1' * the 'changes' claim however: 1.0 (unreleased) What's up? Clearly something went wrong during the releasing of this package, at least documentation-wise. Should be fixed. >>> The documentation is wrong indeed. >>> Note that zope.sqlalchemy pulls in this package as a dependency, even though I don't think ZODB 3.8 comes with that version of transaction... >>> The transaction module has been moved out of the ZODB egg for ZODB trunk >>> aka 3.9 as far as I know. >>> >>> That means the stand-alone transaction package can probably not be used >>> with any ZODB 3.8 versions. >>> >>> But except the wrong documentation, I don't see a problem with the >>> release as such. IIRC someone wanted to use it outside the ZODB and it >>> was moved out and got an early alpha release. >> The dependency lets us run the tests easily. It's quite stable, so it >> doesn't seem to cause any problems if it gets downloaded into a zope >> 2.10 buildout. You can always use the additional-fake-eggs = >> transaction if it's a problem. > > transaction is also used by repoze.tm in non-Zope environments such as > TurboGears 2 and Pylons. Those tend to not use buildout and certainly > don't want to see all of zope.* pulled in. repoze.tm2 is the "stripped down" version which depends only on the separate 'transaction' package. The original 'repoze.tm' depends on ZODB3. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software "Excellence by Design"http://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIuthS+gerLs4ltQ4RAnjKAKDFR0k6imdtm9efXdtGqcRj2GK3jACeNGJP KG4JbWnWDIoiBYR3OZvTymU= =fxWv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] weird release of transaction module
Previously Laurence Rowe wrote: > Hanno Schlichting wrote: > > Martijn Faassen wrote: > >> I just looked at the PyPI page of 'transaction': > >> > >> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/transaction > >> > >> And I see some weirdnesses: > >> > >> * it's called 'transaction 1.0a1' > >> > >> * the 'changes' claim however: > >> > >>1.0 (unreleased) > >> > >> What's up? Clearly something went wrong during the releasing of this > >> package, at least documentation-wise. Should be fixed. > > > > The documentation is wrong indeed. > > > >> Note that zope.sqlalchemy pulls in this package as a dependency, even > >> though I don't think ZODB 3.8 comes with that version of transaction... > > > > The transaction module has been moved out of the ZODB egg for ZODB trunk > > aka 3.9 as far as I know. > > > > That means the stand-alone transaction package can probably not be used > > with any ZODB 3.8 versions. > > > > But except the wrong documentation, I don't see a problem with the > > release as such. IIRC someone wanted to use it outside the ZODB and it > > was moved out and got an early alpha release. > > The dependency lets us run the tests easily. It's quite stable, so it > doesn't seem to cause any problems if it gets downloaded into a zope > 2.10 buildout. You can always use the additional-fake-eggs = > transaction if it's a problem. transaction is also used by repoze.tm in non-Zope environments such as TurboGears 2 and Pylons. Those tend to not use buildout and certainly don't want to see all of zope.* pulled in. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] weird release of transaction module
Hanno Schlichting wrote: > Martijn Faassen wrote: >> I just looked at the PyPI page of 'transaction': >> >> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/transaction >> >> And I see some weirdnesses: >> >> * it's called 'transaction 1.0a1' >> >> * the 'changes' claim however: >> >>1.0 (unreleased) >> >> What's up? Clearly something went wrong during the releasing of this >> package, at least documentation-wise. Should be fixed. > > The documentation is wrong indeed. > >> Note that zope.sqlalchemy pulls in this package as a dependency, even >> though I don't think ZODB 3.8 comes with that version of transaction... > > The transaction module has been moved out of the ZODB egg for ZODB trunk > aka 3.9 as far as I know. > > That means the stand-alone transaction package can probably not be used > with any ZODB 3.8 versions. > > But except the wrong documentation, I don't see a problem with the > release as such. IIRC someone wanted to use it outside the ZODB and it > was moved out and got an early alpha release. The dependency lets us run the tests easily. It's quite stable, so it doesn't seem to cause any problems if it gets downloaded into a zope 2.10 buildout. You can always use the additional-fake-eggs = transaction if it's a problem. Laurence ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] weird release of transaction module
Martijn Faassen wrote: > I just looked at the PyPI page of 'transaction': > > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/transaction > > And I see some weirdnesses: > > * it's called 'transaction 1.0a1' > > * the 'changes' claim however: > >1.0 (unreleased) > > What's up? Clearly something went wrong during the releasing of this > package, at least documentation-wise. Should be fixed. The documentation is wrong indeed. > Note that zope.sqlalchemy pulls in this package as a dependency, even > though I don't think ZODB 3.8 comes with that version of transaction... The transaction module has been moved out of the ZODB egg for ZODB trunk aka 3.9 as far as I know. That means the stand-alone transaction package can probably not be used with any ZODB 3.8 versions. But except the wrong documentation, I don't see a problem with the release as such. IIRC someone wanted to use it outside the ZODB and it was moved out and got an early alpha release. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] weird release of transaction module
Martijn Faassen wrote: > What's up? Clearly something went wrong during the releasing of this > package, at least documentation-wise. Should be fixed. I'd hazard a guess at yet another brown bag release that now no-one wants to remove for the same stupid reasons that are always parrotted as soon as someone wants to remove something insane from PyPI or another source of eggs... *sulk* Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] weird release of transaction module
Hi there, I just looked at the PyPI page of 'transaction': http://pypi.python.org/pypi/transaction And I see some weirdnesses: * it's called 'transaction 1.0a1' * the 'changes' claim however: 1.0 (unreleased) What's up? Clearly something went wrong during the releasing of this package, at least documentation-wise. Should be fixed. Note that zope.sqlalchemy pulls in this package as a dependency, even though I don't think ZODB 3.8 comes with that version of transaction... Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
