Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-16 Thread Tim Cook
Thanks All, On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 21:55 +0100, Carsten Senger wrote: > > Sure you can have specialized fields that subclass from Field, TextLine, > or another base class. E.g. RegistrationNumber(TextLine) that takes care > to validate the input for a special format. But you use them in an > i

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-16 Thread Tim Cook
Hi Shane, On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 14:10 -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: > Sorry, but the patch doesn't make any sense. Your version of > _validate_fields quietly skips validation entirely by default. First of all that is why I asked for others to look at it. :-) But I DID test it by inserting an

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-16 Thread Carsten Senger
Hi Tim, Tim Cook schrieb: > Thanks for all the assistance. > > On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 18:05 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: > >> Yes, you do create new schema fields by subclassing from Field. >> >> It's just that we saw you putting a field not in a schema but in what >> looked like a concrete obje

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-16 Thread Tim Cook
Thanks for all the assistance. On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 18:05 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Yes, you do create new schema fields by subclassing from Field. > > It's just that we saw you putting a field not in a schema but in what > looked like a concrete object. This has given me a BIG pause wh

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-16 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, >> To debug this >> problem, a developer will need the smallest possible example of code >> that demonstrates the problem. That means, I take it, just 2 schemas >> and a single form. Describe briefly what you expect to happen and what >> in fact happens. If that example can be done *without*

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Withers
Tim Cook wrote: > I would also like for you to explain just what it is about my "attitude" > that you find so offensive/problematic? As a general rule of thumb, anyone who posts with more than on exlamation mark is likely on the wrong track. Cross posting to several lists is also a bit of a no

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:55 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: > I don't think a wiki page with a chronicle is necessary or even > helpful; you need to give us the information necessary to find the > bug, but no distracting surrounding information. Okay. > To debug this > problem, a developer will n

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-16 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Tim Cook wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 22:05 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: > >> Okay, I'll take another look then and look at ObjectRef. Ah, yes, Dan >> pointed out to you that you are using a zope.schema.Field in a class >> instead of in a schema (an inter

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 22:05 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Okay, I'll take another look then and look at ObjectRef. Ah, yes, Dan > pointed out to you that you are using a zope.schema.Field in a class > instead of in a schema (an interface). That isn't right, and since the > direct use of that

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-13 Thread Shane Hathaway
Tim Cook wrote: > I DID submit a patch suggestion in the Launchpad bug report. I think you're talking about this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/301226 Sorry, but the patch doesn't make any sense. Your version of _validate_fields quietly skips validation entirely by default. Why wou

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-12 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Tim Cook wrote: > On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 11:05 +, Chris Withers wrote: [snip] > So again, referring to the subject line. What are the next steps? I am trying to understand the history of the discussion, which has a lot of text and is widespread. I think Dan Korostelev tried buildi

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-12 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 11:05 +, Chris Withers wrote: > I can't. The testrunner is already there and buildout-based development > makes it trivial to run. svn already does the patch creation for you: > > $ svn diff > > > be able to get past that bit. Perhaps a kind Zope dev will pick up on >

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2009-01-09 Thread Chris Withers
Hedley Roos wrote: > Chris mentioned unit tests. You do not have to write a new unit test. > What is required is to have a look at the tests and then identify one > that is relevant to your problematic method. This test should be very > easy to read. The "hard" part is for you to expand this test t

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2008-12-23 Thread Hedley Roos
Hi Tim I'm more involved with Plone but can provide a slightly more digestible answer :) Chris mentioned unit tests. You do not have to write a new unit test. What is required is to have a look at the tests and then identify one that is relevant to your problematic method. This test should be ver

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2008-12-19 Thread Tim Cook
Thanks Dieter, On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 19:41 +0100, Dieter Maurer wrote: > I often approach situations like this with so called "Monkey Patches": > I replace or enhance classes or methods during startup (triggered > by some startup event). > > This may not be optimal but allows me to solve my probl

Re: [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2008-12-19 Thread Dieter Maurer
Tim Cook wrote at 2008-12-18 08:35 -0200: > ... >"Yeah we use the really cool, robust, well tested and trusted >application server called the Zope Component Architecture because it >really shows the strengths of the open source development process. Oh, >by the way, after everything is installed yo