Re: [Zope-PAS] Re: PluggableAuthService and PrincipalDeleted

2008-05-08 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [cut] >> >> I don't think we know enough yet to do a good job of writing a similar >> framework for *managing* users atop a n arbitrary set of user / group /

Re: [Zope-PAS] Re: PluggableAuthService and PrincipalDeleted

2008-05-08 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [cut] > > I don't think we know enough yet to do a good job of writing a similar > framework for *managing* users atop a n arbitrary set of user / group / > role / property stores. Lots of "partial solutions" (i.e., applicati

[Zope-PAS] Re: PluggableAuthService and PrincipalDeleted

2008-05-08 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miles wrote: >> I've never been happy with the idea of PAS "supporting" any changes to >> the plugins: even the IUserAdderPlugin and IUpdatePlugin are out of >> place, in my opinion, because they try to generalize without knowing >> enough: they exi

[Zope-PAS] Re: PluggableAuthService and PrincipalDeleted

2008-05-07 Thread Miles
Hi, I've never been happy with the idea of PAS "supporting" any changes to the plugins: even the IUserAdderPlugin and IUpdatePlugin are out of place, in my opinion, because they try to generalize without knowing enough: they exist to support a not-really-a-contract of the "stock" Zope user fol

Re: [Zope-PAS] Re: PluggableAuthService and PrincipalDeleted

2008-05-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Tres Seaver wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Miles wrote: > > > It would be great if PAS supported deleting users, with the same > > event-based system for notifying other plugins to tidy up. > > I've never been happy with the idea of PAS "supporting" any

[Zope-PAS] Re: PluggableAuthService and PrincipalDeleted

2008-05-06 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miles wrote: > It would be great if PAS supported deleting users, with the same > event-based system for notifying other plugins to tidy up. I've never been happy with the idea of PAS "supporting" any changes to the plugins: even the IUserAdderPlug

[Zope-PAS] Re: PluggableAuthService and PrincipalDeleted

2008-05-06 Thread Miles
Hi, It would be great if PAS supported deleting users, with the same event-based system for notifying other plugins to tidy up. IMHO, adding a new interface for deletion rather than renaming the existing one is better - there's no guarantee existing plugins implement the new interface, so it