Re: [ZWeb] Version 3
Chris Withers wrote: > Andrew Sawyers wrote: >> Maybe we don't have login on these pages; maybe use a different url for >> 'managing' the site: manager.zope.org or something which adds in an >> additional skin which includes these macros. Just an idea. > > How would normal users go about submitting news and product releases? > > Where would they upload the files? > Its been a misunderstanding. There are normal users and product releases in current zope.org, but that might change in the future 'zopeweb' and thats what Andrew was talking about in his reply. Maybe we need to label the zope.org vision we refer to in future posts. Michael -- http://zope.org/Members/d2m http://planetzope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Version 3
Andrew Sawyers wrote: Maybe we don't have login on these pages; maybe use a different url for 'managing' the site: manager.zope.org or something which adds in an additional skin which includes these macros. Just an idea. How would normal users go about submitting news and product releases? Where would they upload the files? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Version 3
About printing. The CSS for printable pages has not been added yet. The pages will be printer freindly (inluding menus). - Original Message - From: "Andrew Sawyers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brad Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [ZWeb] Version 3 >--- >I have bigger questions though. > >1. Does the page print well? Dunno, a print css would solve this easily. > >2. Is the site to represent -both- Zope2 and Zope3, or just Zope3? >Wit mentions of Plone, CMF and Zope Products on the drop-down menus, >it seems to be targeted at Zope2. It has always been in my scope of trying to direct this to focus on Zope the technology, not a specific zope version. >3. On those drop-down menus, lose the constant prefix "Zope". For >example, under "Business", we don't need "Zope Training", just >"Training". Drop down menus are placeholders - there is actually structre in svn we are going to be using on the live site. > >4. Re the copyright at the bottom - shouldn't that be Zope Foundation >instead?\ There is no Zope Foundation yet. Suppose it likely should be when it is formed. > >5. I like the drop-down menus, although they won't print. Do we care? Can this be handled in css? > Andrew ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Version 3
> >--- > >I have bigger questions though. > > > >1. Does the page print well? Dunno, a print css would solve this easily. > > > >2. Is the site to represent -both- Zope2 and Zope3, or just Zope3? > >Wit mentions of Plone, CMF and Zope Products on the drop-down menus, > >it seems to be targeted at Zope2. It has always been in my scope of trying to direct this to focus on Zope the technology, not a specific zope version. > >3. On those drop-down menus, lose the constant prefix "Zope". For > >example, under "Business", we don't need "Zope Training", just > >"Training". Drop down menus are placeholders - there is actually structre in svn we are going to be using on the live site. > > > >4. Re the copyright at the bottom - shouldn't that be Zope Foundation > >instead?\ There is no Zope Foundation yet. Suppose it likely should be when it is formed. > > > >5. I like the drop-down menus, although they won't print. Do we care? Can this be handled in css? > > Andrew > ___ > Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Version 3
Here are some comments from Jeff Rush. Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:42:26 -0600 From: Jeff Rush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: Brad Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ZWeb] Version 3 (I'm not a subscriber to the ZWeb list yet, so I'll send my comments to you) Brad Allen wrote: http://www.modscape.com/zope/v3 - the page looks pretty dark/heavy, got a 'daylight' version ? Not really, no. I don't think this version is "dark" at all. I like the colors -- calming and clear. I suppose if enough people dislike it, you could dial up the brightness of the blue a touch. Bonnie said she liked the lilies, and they do add a nice bit of understated beauty to the site. I don't know if the naturalistic imagery means anything, but adding a bit of "aliveness" to the page certainly can't hurt. I like them - they are understated and don't get in the way. The right side blurbs with icons looked really good at first glance but on further examination I think the question mark over the Zope sphere is visually confusing. An alternative might be to get rid of the question mark overlay. The question mark either needs to be dropped or enlarged so it extends beyond the Zope circle. The Zope-Power Sites at the bottom only provides one example. How about a link to more Zope-power sites and/or success stories? This is a draft - I'm sure there will be more. A question is how will multiple success stories be visually represented? --- I have bigger questions though. 1. Does the page print well? 2. Is the site to represent -both- Zope2 and Zope3, or just Zope3? Wit mentions of Plone, CMF and Zope Products on the drop-down menus, it seems to be targeted at Zope2. 3. On those drop-down menus, lose the constant prefix "Zope". For example, under "Business", we don't need "Zope Training", just "Training". 4. Re the copyright at the bottom - shouldn't that be Zope Foundation instead? 5. I like the drop-down menus, although they won't print. 6. The icon along the right for "Zope Docs" looks elongated. Overall it looks like a good start and I like the direction. It needs more filling out to get a good grasp of how the overall site will flow. -Jeff ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Version 3
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 16:09 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > > Understood and ok with me. Its just that we never talked about that > solution before (i've always seen the modscape mockups as a drop-in > replacement for the current mode of zope.org operation). Forgot to reply all This thought had never occurred to me, thus the divergence. I had always thought developmental work was to move forward the 'new' site - never deal with the current one. It was my opinion it was stay as is. Andrew > > Michael > ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Version 3
Andrew Sawyers wrote: On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 08:45 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: - What about the login + navbars ? Will add login as well. Not sure what you mean about "navbars"? The navigation is up top, the black bar. Maybe we don't have login on these pages; maybe use a different url for 'managing' the site: manager.zope.org or something which adds in an additional skin which includes these macros. Just an idea. I meant the bar holding the object, folder, user, workflow and global actions, currently displayed in a horizontal bar under the header/banner block. You can't use zope.org (plone) without the actions. It should be fairly trivial to work these in - remember, these types of actions are not going to be for the general user populacethus shouldn't be a main focus for his designs INMNSHO. Understood and ok with me. Its just that we never talked about that solution before (i've always seen the modscape mockups as a drop-in replacement for the current mode of zope.org operation). Michael -- http://zope.org/Members/d2m http://planetzope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Version 3
On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 21:25 -0600, Brad Allen wrote: > > http://www.modscape.com/zope/v3 > > The Zope News and Zope Products section do seem slightly drab. > Drab is ok for documention but news stories could use just a > little bit of zing. > The News and Products sections you see now are not going to be paramount on the page when all is said and done. We're trying to get some good catchy text/phrases going for the home page which draws users into the 'meat' of the site. A smaller presence of the news and products needs to be considered. Andrew > ___ > Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Version 3
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 08:45 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: > >> - What about the login + navbars ? > > > > Will add login as well. Not sure what you mean about "navbars"? The > > navigation is up top, the black bar. Maybe we don't have login on these pages; maybe use a different url for 'managing' the site: manager.zope.org or something which adds in an additional skin which includes these macros. Just an idea. > > > > I meant the bar holding the object, folder, user, workflow and global > actions, currently displayed in a horizontal bar under the header/banner > block. You can't use zope.org (plone) without the actions. It should be fairly trivial to work these in - remember, these types of actions are not going to be for the general user populacethus shouldn't be a main focus for his designs INMNSHO. Andrew > > >> > > Michael > ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
