[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-02 Thread Paul Everitt
Jeff Shell wrote: Yes. There's a dominant Zope name out there. It's not the Component Architecture nor is it built on it. It's starting to use it, but it's not based on it. However, since the project that Zope 3 [AS] came out of is still identified in the Wiki as the 'Component Architecture'

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-02 Thread Stefane Fermigier
Jeff Shell wrote: - Zope 3 CA: The Zope Component Architecture. Core services. Would include zope.publisher and most other current top level zope.* things. Usable as a library, as a publisher for other environments, perhaps as a simple standalone server. Easy to deploy against WSGI,

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-01 Thread Gary Poster
On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:42 PM, Jeff Shell wrote: [...] - Zope 3 CA: The Zope Component Architecture. Core services. Would include zope.publisher and most other current top level zope.* things. Usable as a library, as a publisher for other environments, perhaps as a simple standalone

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-01 Thread Chris McDonough
I think packaging efforts are really the key to being able to tell a story like this. The efforts happen to be couched in a process of converting z3 packages into eggs, but really the process of identifying dependencies and eliminating the silly ones is the valuable work here, and it

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-01 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris McDonough wrote: [...] the process of identifying dependencies and eliminating the silly ones is the valuable work here, and it seems to be getting done by embracing egg packaging, which is really wonderful. Such a gushing endorsement! Now I feel guilty for not having tried eggs

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-01 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:31 PM, Shane Hathaway wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: [...] the process of identifying dependencies and eliminating the silly ones is the valuable work here, and it seems to be getting done by embracing egg packaging, which is really wonderful. Such a gushing

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-01 Thread Terry Hancock
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 21:43:10 -0500 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think packaging efforts are really the key to being able to tell a story like this. The efforts happen to be couched in a process of converting z3 packages into eggs, but really the process of identifying

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-01 Thread Jeff Shell
On 3/1/06, Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 21:43:10 -0500 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a marketing or user convenience perspective, labels like the ones proposed remain useful, however. Personally, I think they're fine. I'm not sure I wouldn't ditch