[Zope3-dev] Two visions?

2006-03-02 Thread Geoff Davis
+1 on Jim's suggestion #2. However, if I am understanding things correctly, it doesn't really sound like door #2 entails a huge deviation from from our current course of bringing Zope 2 and Zope 3 together gradually. I don't really care what the converged product is called, be it Zope 2.250 or

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions?

2006-03-02 Thread Geoff Davis
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:38:03 -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: I think that the idea of giving Zed its own, distinct identity is great. Zope 3 is a _huge_ overhaul and it needs to be obvious to the world that it is dramatically better than crufty old Zope 2. Zope 3 then becomes the Zed application

[Zope3-dev] Re: visions, brands and roadmaps in the sand

2006-03-02 Thread Geoff Davis
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:39:54 +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote: Technology-wise: [snip] This, as far as I can see, is compatible with 99% of the visions we have discussed here, and it will keep us busy for a year. :-) I like your summary. It sounds consistent with both Jim's proposed vision

[Zope3-dev] The vision thing

2006-03-05 Thread Geoff Davis
Jeff Shell has posted some thought-provoking pieces on his blog that are relevant to Jim's recent attempt to better articulate a vision for Zope: http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2006/03/zope-crisis-of-faith-coming-this-march.html

[Zope3-dev] Principles

2006-03-05 Thread Geoff Davis
I am very glad to see that Jim's efforts to better articulate a vision for Zope have generated so much interest. I am not so sure that the discussion has been an entirely productive one. I think that we as a community would benefit by working on our social engineering as much as our software