Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [z3-five] zcml questions

2006-09-27 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2006-9-25 18:44 +0100: ... Can we have a papal edict that zcml that has side effects is a bug? (including the dotted name thing...) Hm: the purpose of zcml is to have side effects (register things, patch classes with marker interfaces, add

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [z3-five] zcml questions

2006-09-26 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2006-9-25 18:44 +0100: ... Can we have a papal edict that zcml that has side effects is a bug? (including the dotted name thing...) Hm: the purpose of zcml is to have side effects (register things, patch classes with marker interfaces, add permissions, ...) -- Dieter

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [z3-five] zcml questions

2006-09-26 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2006-9-25 18:44 +0100: ... Can we have a papal edict that zcml that has side effects is a bug? (including the dotted name thing...) Hm: the purpose of zcml is to have side effects (register things,

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [z3-five] zcml questions

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sep 26, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2006-9-25 18:44 +0100: ... Can we have a papal edict that zcml that has side effects is a bug? (including the dotted name thing...) Hm: the purpose of zcml is to have side effects (register things, patch classes with

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [z3-five] zcml questions

2006-09-25 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: It would *also* require that we implement the no side-effects during parsing policy (my other favorite dead horse in arguments about ZCML's implementation / usage). Beat away. :) I've been in favor of this for some time. This is definitely a goal. Can we have a papal

[Zope3-dev] Re: [z3-five] zcml questions

2006-09-25 Thread Chris Withers
Tres Seaver wrote: How should I do things such that they can do that? I'm just wondering whether you really need the disabling feature. I've wanted it. My major beef with the way we are *using* ZCML now is that we expect package authors to provide policy-laden configuration for their

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [z3-five] zcml questions

2006-09-25 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Chris Withers wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: It would *also* require that we implement the no side-effects during parsing policy (my other favorite dead horse in arguments about ZCML's implementation / usage). Beat away. :) I've been in favor of this for some

[Zope3-dev] Re: [z3-five] zcml questions

2006-09-21 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sep 21, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: I've wanted it. My major beef with the way we are *using* ZCML now is that we expect package authors to provide policy-laden configuration for their packages (sensible defaults) but provide no means for the admin to reuse that configuration