Re: AW: [Zope3-dev] Re: AW: relying on win32api in windows supportofzc.zope3recipes
On Friday 17 August 2007 17:32, Gary Poster wrote: However, it's worth noting to clarify this discussion that buildout is being successfully used to install a wide variety of software on *nix systems (I know of Red Hat, Ubuntu, and OS X). This includes software that does not have eggs (such as M2Crypto) and software that does not have much to do directly with Python (such as libxml2 and swig). Windows is pretty different in this respect. You really want to use an installer, which means you get a wizard. People in Windows expect this behavior and want it. It is quiet ignorant to ask them to use eggs instead. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re[2]: AW: [Zope3-dev] Re: AW: relying on win32api in windows supportofzc.zope3recipes
Monday, August 20, 2007, 3:05:45 PM, Stephan Richter wrote: Windows is pretty different in this respect. You really want to use an installer, which means you get a wizard. People in Windows expect this behavior and want it. It is quiet ignorant to ask them to use eggs instead. Hackers on win32 can live with eggs, but beginners surely not. The wizard might be a simple wrapper around the scenes behind. Ask some parameters/path/anything, start the install script with python, provide some progress feedback. -- Best regards, Adammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
AW: [Zope3-dev] Re: AW: relying on win32api in windows supportofzc.zope3recipes
Hi Martijn Betreff: Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: AW: relying on win32api in windows supportofzc.zope3recipes [...] We're just talking about Zope here, and installing Zope into its own buildout (possibly sharing eggs with another). This means we don't care much about installing the documentation anyway, just having the libraries importable so that Zope can do its work on windows. Yes, but that's exactly the problem with the buildout process. The installation process right now with buildout is not able to deal with anything which is not a egg and it's horrible if it comes to 3rd party python library weher no eggs are available. At least on windows. I think we should support recipe for (exe, msi) installers and other things like (zip) unzipper etc. Right now it's a nightmare to use buildout if it comes to e.g. pysqlite. [...] Regards Roger Ineichen Regards, Martijn ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: AW: [Zope3-dev] Re: AW: relying on win32api in windows supportofzc.zope3recipes
On Aug 17, 2007, at 5:13 PM, Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Martijn Betreff: Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: AW: relying on win32api in windows supportofzc.zope3recipes [...] We're just talking about Zope here, and installing Zope into its own buildout (possibly sharing eggs with another). This means we don't care much about installing the documentation anyway, just having the libraries importable so that Zope can do its work on windows. Yes, but that's exactly the problem with the buildout process. The installation process right now with buildout is not able to deal with anything which is not a egg and it's horrible if it comes to 3rd party python library weher no eggs are available. At least on windows. Windows compatibility is an important question. Unfortunately, I don't have anything to contribute to it. However, it's worth noting to clarify this discussion that buildout is being successfully used to install a wide variety of software on *nix systems (I know of Red Hat, Ubuntu, and OS X). This includes software that does not have eggs (such as M2Crypto) and software that does not have much to do directly with Python (such as libxml2 and swig). Gary ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
