Re: [Zope3-dev] Pluggins vs Application Definition

2006-02-15 Thread Chris Withers
Stephan Richter wrote: This is interesting. I agree with Philipp though that a simple install tool would be better than one magic location. Indeed, but don't eggs already provide tools for this? I think the ZCML slugs are very cool I think they suck, sorry... it's one of the first things I

Re: [Zope3-dev] Pluggins vs Application Definition

2006-02-14 Thread Benji York
Rocky Burt wrote: Zope 2 developers see zcml slugs and say, "what, things have gotten harder going to zope3?". This isn't a contradiction of what Rocky Burt said, but I feel the need to assert that "harder" doesn't necessarily mean "worse". It's also not necessarily "better" either. Now ba

Re: [Zope3-dev] Pluggins vs Application Definition

2006-02-14 Thread Rocky Burt
Stephan Richter wrote: > On Saturday 11 February 2006 16:50, Jim Fulton wrote: > >>- Application developers need to build an application. They will >> generally want fairly tight control over what goes into the >> application. For them, it's valuable to say in an explicit >> way what they

Re: [Zope3-dev] Pluggins vs Application Definition

2006-02-13 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 11 February 2006 16:50, Jim Fulton wrote: > - Application developers need to build an application.  They will >    generally want fairly tight control over what goes into the >    application.  For them, it's valuable to say in an explicit >    way what they want. > > - If the applicati

Re: [Zope3-dev] Pluggins vs Application Definition

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Fulton
Rob Jeschofnik wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: In summary, I think we need *both* approaches, as they serve different needs. I'd have to agree... so +1 .. but I'd suggest that the application/plugin should have a way of defining which ways it can (or prefers, if it can't be enforced) to be includ

Re: [Zope3-dev] Pluggins vs Application Definition

2006-02-11 Thread Rob Jeschofnik
Jim Fulton wrote: In summary, I think we need *both* approaches, as they serve different needs. I'd have to agree... so +1 .. but I'd suggest that the application/plugin should have a way of defining which ways it can (or prefers, if it can't be enforced) to be included, so it is clear that P